let's face it, the highly religious, the ones we here have the biggest problem with, is the base of the Republican Party.  given this, news of its imminent demise should thrill most Atheists.  and make no mistake, barring a gargantuan shift in policies and rhetoric, they are absolutely on the path towards extinction.  

it's common knowledge that the GOP is an old, white party.  while not an absolute, that is an accurate enough description of the Republican Party today.  two trends to keep in mind here.  one, old people tend to die at a faster rate than young people.  two, white people are shrinking as a percentage of the electorate.  they are running out of supporters, and it's happening quicker than many thought.  

take yesterday's election.  President Obama won over 90% of the black vote and 70% of the latino and asian vote.  Romney did well with seniors and whites overall.  meanwhile, the country is getting browner.  the GOP may end up becoming a whites only club, a nativist and pale collection of isolationists who choose to ignore the changing demographics of the country.  worse, they may choose to keep it this way.  if they choose this path, their extinction is all but guaranteed.  their option would be to abandon their social issues, immigration policies, and economic austery programs and to open up their tent through real policy change.  

anyone wanna bet which way they go?

for Atheists, either way is a win.  if the GOP becomes irrelevant then the power of the religious right goes with it.  if they truly make changes to make more people inclusive and begin to part with their religious base Atheists will celebrate.  yesterday's election is better for Atheists than most people would think.  

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Hey, some would say I'm old and white!  GOP is not my party!  

If GOP goes down the tubes, that's fine with me.  There does need to be opposition.  It's the only way to avoid extremism.  I don't want gridlock, either.

But the religious hate mongers and looneytunes need to go.

I prefer gridlock.  The less our government can accomplish, the better!  In most instances when big sweeping changes are accomplished by a unified governing body, our population usually finds its self waist deep in excrement.  A good example is the "Patriot Act".

I agree that there needs to be opposition to keep things in check. As you say - it is not a good thing when one party dominates. Example - I am concerned that if the economy really goes south because of bad policy decisions - that there are not enough people in the country that really care. There seems to be a growing block of voters that will vote Democrat no matter what. I am concerned we are headed for a European, not Sweden style but Greek style government where we will never be able to fulfill promises made and chaos and anarchy is the result. That is the environment that can lead to the type of totalitarian response we have seen numerous times throughout history.   

I would like to see a fiscally conservative party emerge that is not dominated by the religious right, but is more libertarian, that would appeal to what I hope is a still a majority in the country. Those who want a safety net, and appropriate regulation, but also one that rewards entrepreneurs. One that does not make it impossible to start a small business.

P.S. Gridlock is sometimes less expensive than when everyone gets along. The natural impulse is for politicians of any stripe to get "stuff" for their Districts. I also prefer that decisions be made at the local/state level when possible. They more local, the more accountable (usually). Plus it is easier to move to another city or state than another country.



Even if the GOP "goes extinct", there will be opposition to the Democratic Party.  Remember, the GOP replaced the Whig Party as the main opponent of the Democrats with the election of Abraham Lincoln, our nation's first president to be both a Republican and a Vampire Hunter, LOL.  There are actually more parties than just the Democrats and the Republicans, they've just been the two main parties since Lincoln was elected.  If the GOP disappears, it's likely that one of these other parties, such as the Green Party, the Peace and Freedom Party, or more likely the Libertarian Party, will rise to replace them.

No complaints from me if the Green Party replaces the Republicans as the other main party, making the Democrats look regressive!!! It'll leapfrog the Overton window in a very welcome direction.

(From your mouth to... never mind. "The FSM has no noodly appendages but ours.")

agreed, and i'm white and getting older by the day :)

we definitely need a strong opposition party.  i'm getting less convinced it's going to be the GOP in the long run, though.  there's an opening for something else.  i watched the libertarian candidate interviewed and he made more sense than either Obama or Romney.  now i don't like their ultra tiny government ideology, but i do like many of their other views.

most of my friends are convinced that a fiscally conservative/socially liberal party is where most of americans are at.  i even wrote a discussion here at A/N about this very thing.  my idea was for a 3rd party simply called "the 3rd party".  maybe something happens with this.

They are on the way out. Someday soon. We can make change happen.

even if they remain relevant, i'm starting to think that the religious right will be ignored in the future.  if republicans don't drop their obsession with reproductive rights then we'll continue to hear the word "rape" over and over and their candidates will lose.  

Yes it was very good for Atheits :)) I think it's so fucking typical to hear all the religious groups tell you how Mormons are a cult.. Then when Romney wins GOP they all ralley by him. Watch how fast the interdenominational fighting picks back up! Romney can know go back to his magic underwear an baptizing dead atheists!

they are a cult, and shall remain so.  thank goodness they didn't get a president elected before an atheist, or a woman.  

What the difference between a cult and a religion? The amount of real estate they own.

Frank Zappa

Like SB, I'm old and white. However, like I told my teabagger brother, I am neither immoral enough, nor ignorant enough, to be a member of the GOP. Though, there does need to be a loyal opposition. And by "loyal," I mean disagreeing with certain decisions, albeit economic, foreign, immigration, and other major policy considerations. What I don't mean by "loyal" is the ad hominems  of Kenyan born Muslim. If not a loyal opposition, there is a risk of an extreme shift from one end to the other. 

The good news is that individual extremists like Akin of Missouri, Mourdock of Indiana, and Walsh of Illinois had their ass handed to them on a platter. Unlike those who look just like me as an old white male, I don't live in a gated community where the only people of color who are allowed in are those that clean out the garbage cans, and happy hour is the time to vilify non-whites and women. I prefer to live in the real world where I can interact with other rational people and try to learn something from them. And, with a little luck, contribute to the productive dialogue. 




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