We have some evidence that the Europeans around the time of the building of the Great Pyramid knew as much mathematics and astronomy as the Egyptians in the form of Stonehenge and then later in the form of the Neblar skydisk(a picture and account of it was mentioned by me on this blog; it shouldn't be too far down the blog right now!). But, for whatever reason, the mesopotamian, Egyptian, and Hittite civilizations were to become the leading force for the future of humanity. This is perhaps especially weird considering that before 1000B.C. all those civilizations mysteriously(still for the most part . . . a mystery) suffered a major collapse and a dark ages. I've mentioned this before when talking about the Minoans. Them and Troy and the Egyptians of their middle period, that was the era before what we would consider the classical Greeks and at the same time the growth of the Hebrews. As I've mentioned before, there seems to be a close association between the Minoans and the Phoenicians, and it seems the Phoenicians started our alphabetical language style; a language style taken up by both the Greeks and the Hebrews. I've posted a youtube about the latest archaeology of the Hebrews before, but I'm going to point out some of what they say in that youtube, and then get into some of my latest readings about the New Testament.
The Bible says the Israelites came out of Egypt. Well, i don't want to totally refute that, but I do want to suggest it was a little bit more complicated than that! For starters, 'Israel' . . . Is ra el. Is is Issis, a persian god. Ra is an Egyptian god, and El is a Phoenician god(In fact, God is translated in Hebrew as Elohim; also, Lord is translated as Adonai a summarian god). When for whatever reason the civilizations went into a dark ages around 1200 B.C., a whole bunch of surrounding peoples seemed to flow into the canaanite lands in between the Hittites(Persians) in the north, and the Egyptians in the south. Israel seems to me to suggest that a bunch of peoples came together there and mixed.
I want to show some interesting biblical evidence for two things here; sungod worship by both the Egyptians and the very earliest Hebrews, and that there is some connection between the Hebrews and the Egyptians(I've already suggested this is a little bit more complicated than the bible would show it or that most people would think). Basically, there's some comparison between the Hymn to Akhenaten and Psalm 104. http://kemet.250x.com/psalm104.html
Seems to me the changes from the Hyman to Akenaten to the biblical Psalm 104 is a great reflection of the time in between their writing. The amount of times it was told, it obviously changed over time.
The first mention of Israelites seems to be around 1100 B.C. These Israelites seem to have grown quite rich. I should back up here actually. It should be noted that there was a northern rich agricultural lands that was called Israel, and a poor lower highlands called Judah. The northerners seemed to be rich for awhile. But, eventually, some aggresive Mesopotamian Assyrians destroyed them. When this happened, some of the Israelites moved south into Judah. But, it wasn't for two hundred years that Judah didn't become a powerfull state around 700 B.C. There seems to be much scriptural evidence for this date as when the torah of the Old Testament was first formed. For one, there is much mention of Abraham riding around on camels; archaeological evidence shows that Camels only became domesticated around 700B.C. A lot of the place names of the surrounding other cultures were only in existence around this time(like the Emobites). Also, those peoples conflicts with each other and with the Judahites has been shown by archaeology to have only taken place around 700 B.C.(i'm mostly talking about the descriptions of peoples mentioned in the book of Genesis). In Genesis 25:23 two nations are born in the womb of a woman.
Why was the Torah really first composed around 700 b.c.? I'd like to mention a couple more quotes from the Bible. In 2Kings 22:8-23:24, High Priest Hilkiah miraculously finds the torah in his back room(kind of convenient, ha!?), and in Genesis 49:8-10, it is said that Judah is to be the center of the world really; it says the skeptre shall never depart Judah. Considering all the detailing of the peoples politics with one another(in an allegorical way) and that whoever wrote that the Sceptre shall never depart Judah, it should be quite clear what the Old testament for oen is . . . a political pamphlet. While Thales is busy touring the great learning centers of the Mesopotamians and Egyptians, the Judahites are declaring themselves the chosen ones.
When Judah became a fullfledged state, a division of labor to the level of allowing an educated class of scribes, a government to govern agriculture and a military, was as I said before two hundred years after Israel(really the Omrides who were not viewed by the Judahites very well because they were rich at the time . . . 900 B.C. . . and the Judahites weren't; i hope to get back to this point!) was destroyed. When they got around to composing their political pamphlet, there were ruins everywhere - far and near. What to make of it all? Of course, King Soloman must have built all these ruins(they were Omride, an Israelite dynasty), and, where did we come from? Of course, we must have come from Egypt! How could we have done that? There must have been a parting of the seas! I want to stress here something about the way humans think here. I mean, we have to figure things out from our current perspective. This is what Jacob Bronowski is trying to say in his "Origins of Knowledge and Imagination." I mean when we first started out trying to understand the stars, we thought the earth was the center of the universe and flat(most ancient people); we'd make up our mathematics accordingling; Everyone from Eudoxus to Ptolemy would explain the motions of the planets by making epicycles upon epicycles no matter how unweildy the final contraption. Just like our first thoughts about the sun, stars, and planets going around the immovable Earth, the Judahites made sense of their surroundings and predicaments from their current perspective or time and space.
Here's an interesting biblical point about the Judahites p0litics compared to the northern Israelites . . . 2kings14:9, the Israelite king calls the Judahite king a thistle who goes to Lebanon for help because they can't take care of themselves.
About that Exodus . . . well, there appears to have been an exodus of Hyksos around 1570 B.c. They went into canaan and all; but, this is over a hundred years earlier than when the Bibical exodus is suppose to have happened. In fact, during the supposed biblical exodus, Egypt was enjoying a resurgence of power(before the coming of the mysterious sea peoples . . . Minoans who were to settle down as Phoenicians? . . . and the coming resulting dark ages); this was the time Abu Simble and the great columns at Karnak were built. At that time, Egypt was more powerfull than ever; they built because of the Hyksos walls manned by armies that would travel up and down these walls; they had gates, and they had scribes who would keep track of the comings and goings of those who would go through those gates; guess what? There's no mention of an Exodus at this time.
I'll leave the whole thing(I think; i mean my plans for this posting is to be a rather big post!)about the Exodus with a curious repeat of the exodus story in other parts of the bible. There's Joshua 3:13 through, 2kings 2:8 and 2:14! I mean two right next to each other! It just seems like parting of seas was a literary trick used to overcome any kind of trouble that could stand in their way!
There's plenty more to say about the inaccuracies of the Old testament. But, I'd like to point out some of the various things mentioned. Things like how the Patriarches would take the gods away from poor little locals, Genesis 31:30, God hardens hearts Exodus 4:2-1, 7:4-5, Deut 2:30; this one, God hardens some tribeman's heart so that Moses has to strike him down. He does it again at Joshua 11:20. The exodus passages has God hardening the heart of the Egyptian Pharoh.
After all the above, in Dueteronomy has the ten commandments in chapter 5. What are these ten commandments? They are, I'm a jealous god, don't worship other gods(what? I thought there was only one god? Smooth move their god . . . oops, or is that Elohim? Yea, it's Elohim!). Then, it's don't kill your mother; i'm being facetious here, but, the point is that after four plus books of some of the most barbaric writing(and reading), god asking for burnt offerings, jews in sinai eating a halluecegenic mushroom(I've posted a video not to long ago about how manna from heaven is a mushroom), and all the passages mentioned above, the great cosmic wisesaying from the all powerfull, all wise god is . . . don't rape your mother. Anything else on your mind there god? Well, here's one . . . in 1Samuel chapter 8:10-22, Samuel offers democracy, but the people and ultimately God shouts him down; no, we want to be judged by you Samuel!
Something I havn't confirmed is that the chronicles books are midrash(one could say rehash) of the kings and Samuel books. It's well known that the Epic of Gilgamesh is a flood story and the Judahites basically used it. Perhaps less well known is that the ten commandments are taken right out of the Egyptian book of the dead. Some other things I havn't gotten around to comfirming yet(i'm actually hoping that by making this post, I can finally put this whole religion thing to rest for a good long time! Hence, why I'm putting it all in one big post! There's just so much that one could spend the rest of your life reading and confirming all this archaeology, linguistics, and comparative religion!) is that the Psalms and Proverbs seem to be strikingling similar to the surrounding Mesopotamian civilizations writings as well. I'm pointing all this out because I'm now going to start pointing out a bunch of stuff about the New Testament.
Sorry to say(hate to waste your time!), but I'm having a hard time figuring out where to start! My whole point about the Judahites and the Greeks both taking on the Phoenician alphabet comes into full force here. Both of them used their natural language alphabets for their number symbolism as well. This is what scholars call 'Gematria.' Gematria goes back to Plato really. Plato tried to mathematically calculate love, hate, and morality from numbers and geometry. He started this tradition which went on for almost a thousand years really . . . right into the Gospel of John and his Jesus Christ is the 'word' of god. On the Jewish side of this was actally King Josiah around 622 B.C. He was considered of the Davidic line. The religion . . . basically Dueteronomy . . . was that he was to lead them to the future. Well, a Pharoh cut him down, and the Jews had to rethink their religion; they did so while in exile in Babylon. All the prophet literature like Isaiah, Zechariah and so on come about around this time. Their literature was used by somebody, we don't really know who definitively to misrash first the Gospel of Mark. But, that's still getting ahead of the story. I can't help asking a question about Jesus and the Davidic line here though. How is Jesus Christ of the Davidic line if he was born of a virgin?
I think I'm going to shorten things here a little bit. There's lots of mention of mystery schools in ancient literature. What are they? There's some good guesses i think, but the truth is we shall never really know because they apparently were considered a secret. Once initiated, you were not allowed to tell the outside world the goings on inside these mystery schools as revealed by a passage of Herodotus, book 2, chapter 61 of the "Histories"(de silencourt translation), in which he essentially says that he's not allowed to say what the mysteries are. The mysteries were a secret on pain of death; this is why the christians were persecuted in the early first millenium; because they were revealing mysteries; they were making them 'flesh'. In a revealing passage by Barnabas, a kind of right hand man who followed Paul and continued Paul's efforts, we see why people like Barnabas and Paul were trying to make up a new really sungod . . .
"then he clearly manifested himself to be the son of god. For had he not come in the flesh, how should men have been able looked upon him, that they might be saved?"
This is in the Epistle of Barnabas chapter 4:13-14. The very next passage is full of sungod talk suggesting exactly what Jesus Christ is . . . a sungod. Jesus Christ is the son of god, that is . . . the 'Sun' of of God.
I'd like to get back to the whole 'the mysteries were a secret' point for a second. Herodotus was writing in the four hundreds B.C. time frame. So for those hundreds of years, there were Sungods of Dionysius and the Egyptian(the Egyptian sungods goes back to Ra and thousands of years before the Greeks), yet, we can't say much about them. Actually, we can, but it's kind of hard to dig it all up, translate it all and present it all; you kind of have to go to Egypt for one to do it; and, I'm in no position to do so right now. This is why I'm for the most part going to skip right along to Paul and and his epistles and show some highlights there. To say the least, there's all kinds of Egyptian artwork of horus being born of a virgin on the walls of the great Egyptian temples; but, there's also a whole bunch of papyrus found in the sarcofocus's of egyptians for hundreds of years prior to the supposed birth and life of Jesus Christ; these papyrus have been scrutinzed and found most revealing of an Egyptian religion that had a sungod(variously Osirus or Horus) that was born of a virgin, had twelve disciples and did similar miriacles and so on. Outside of these revealing archaeological relics in an otherwise dark and shut off age, I'm going to present an interesting passage from Virgil.
Well, actually a few things. One is a passage from a Julian calendar dated 9 B.C. . .
"The Providence which rules over all has filled this man with such gifts for the salvation of the world as designated him as savior for us and for the coming generations; of wars he will make an end, and establish all things worthily. By his appearing are the hopes of our forefathers fulfilled; not only has he surpassed the good deeds of earlier times, but it is impossible that one greater than he can ever appear. The birthday of God has brought to the world glad tidings that are bound up in him. From his birthday a new era begins."
Now for the Virgil passage from his "Eclogue 4",
"Come are those last days that the Sybil sang: The ages' might march begins anew. Now comes the virgin, Saturn reigns again: now from high heaven descends a wondrous race. Thou on the newborn babe-who first shall end . . . That age of iron, bid a golden dawn . . . Upon the broud world-chaste Lucina, smile: Now thy Apollo reigns."
This passage would be dated around 37 B.C. Clearly, people from all walks of life whether Jewish, Greek, or Roman were looking for a coming Messiah. Recently, there was found a ink printed stone 'dead sea scroll' which revealed a Jesus Christ before Jesus Christ. This "Revelation of Gabriel" speaks of a Simon who was resurrected after three days. The truth is there were many people around the first century B.C. who were willing to sacrifice their lives(just like the human bombs of today in the middle east!) to be the coming Messiah. This "Revelation of Gabriel" stone tablet has been dated into the first century B.C.
I really don't have to go much further; but, there's just some goodies I've gots to get down here!.
Most people would start any discussion of the New Testament with the Gospels, perhaps Matthew. But, any real New Testament scholar knows that the Pauline epistles came first. That's clue enough that the Gospels were made up; they were made up after the Pauline epistles! Now, for some stuff found in the Pauline Epistles.
Paul says many times that he gets his ideas that there was a Christ(usually, he doesn't even mention Jesus Christ, but a Christ) 'from scripture.' Romans 1:2 and 1Corinthians 15:3-4 are two that I'll mention. It's mentioned many times throughout the new testament really.
Paul is actually in competition with others . . . one an Apollo from Alexandria. He and other groups have make up tests to test whether these others are speaking something significant. Apparently, there's tests made up to test people like Paul if they're authentic or not in Dideche Chapter 11. An example in the New testament is 1John4:1. Of course, it's mentioned many times throughout the New Testament that there's others preaching their own version of a coming messiah. The Jews for one are said in the Gospels to not really believe that Jesus Christ is the coming Messiah. The thing about Paul is that he's claiming authority because he's innovated this idea of 'deriving from scripture.' "Deriving from Scripture' seems to be a Paul innovation. Any sensible person would look up these passages and realize this is not really mathematical derivation. Yes, he derived it from scripture, but this 'midrash' process is not really mathematics. It's poetry at best. Apparently, back then, people didn't realize this. But, let me give some more!
Hebrews 7:1-3 mentions a Melchizadek who is similar to Jesus Christ; why? Because he's derived from scripture . . . in this case, Genesis 14:18-20. Basically, Melchizek is kind of pre-new testament Jesus Christ long before Jesus Christ, and he makes an appearance in this earliest of Pauline epistle because he was an early model for Jesus Christ.
In 1Corinthians15:5-8, Jesus is first seen by a Cephas, then of the twelve, and then by . . . five hundred people! This is two thirds quite contrary to the Gospel accounts.
Isaia 7:14 says a lord shall be born of a virgin and called Immanual. The Gospel of Matthewe quotes this even calling Jesus Christ Emannuel.
There's a lot more that could be mentioned of course, but, I thought I'd mention this one and Jesus coming from Nazareth.
Zechariah 9:9 seems to be the midrash for Jesus coming into Jerusalem on an ass . . . or a colt . . . or both depending on which gospel you read! They all read this scripture a different way, and Jesus is hence made to come in Jerusalem sometimes on one, sometimes on another, and sometimes on both at the same time!
Well, one more, Psalm 22, "God why have you forsaken me?"
Jesus in Mark is made to come from Nazareth by scripture(I forget the scriptural reference; maybe I'll come back and edit this later on; i just want to post this now!). Well, as it turns out, modern archaeology shows that there was no city of Nazareth during the supposed life of Jesus Christ! In fact, there was no city for hundreds of years after the supposed life of Jesus Christ! In the other gospels, Jesus Christ is made to come from Bethleham . . . again, derived from Scripture; only, modern archaeology shows there was no temples built to Jesus Christ then or hundreds of years after the supposed life of Jesus Christ!
The remarkable thing about the references above about the Julian calendar and Virgil and all is that after the birth of Jesus Christ, you would expect a hugh amount of literature and artwork all around the mediterraenean about Jesus Christ performing miracles, and the word of the Gospel coming quickly. But, instead, out of hundreds of historians of the time period, the dead sea scrolls that go from b.c. time period to 100 A.D., to the christian catacombs, there is zero mention of Jesus Christ. Instead, you see Hermes in the catacombs and all kinds of other sungods.
And, why do we see all kinds of other forms of christianity being formed hundreds of years after the supposed life of Jesus Christ if the facts were clear from the very start?
And perhaps finaly, why is Jesus Christ made to be born when he is so made? The Gospels give no date. I suggest that due to a Greek mathematical scientist Hipparchus who discoverd the precession of the equinoxes before 100 B.C, people knew that the end of the age of the Lamb was coming. Jesus Christ is to be the coming of the age of the Pises. The sungods go through the twelve constellations(hence the twelve disciples of christ; all the previous sungods had twelve something . . . sometimes like the twelve things to do for Hercules). Because the earth is tilted, it's north pole is pointed at the north star; but, because it's tilt wobbles or changes, the north pole is pointing to different parts of the sky; and, the constellations come up in different times of the years over thousands of years. Hipparchus discovered this lets say before he died in 120 B.C. It's known that the mithras sungod took on this phenomenon to bring in the new age of aquarius(hence John the Baptist is the constellation of Aquarius). Basically, the transition from the age of the ram to the age of the pises is around the same time that Jesus Christ is born. This whole bringing on of the new age must have been well known around this time, hence the above passage from the julian calendar.
I'd like to finish by saying that my researches in all this bible stuff shows me that from the rules of ethics of the ten commandments to the sungods, gematria, and midrash shows that everyone from the Judahites to the various mystery religions were trying to make a kind of mathematical religion. To make things short, their idea of a mathematical religion is a kind of Ptolemaic mathematical religion. Eudoxus to Ptolemy made a mathematical science of the motions of the stars and planets; but, they're ideas were drawn from wrong assumptions - that of the earth centered viewpoint which is the natural beginning perspective of all humans. In a similar way, christianity and all the sungod religions before it were a kind of Ptolemaic religion; they drew from unquestioned assumptions. These assumptions were about taking the mystery of the universe at face value. These sungod religions are ultimately a play on ignorance.