The economy in the United States is in a collapse.  The Capitalist system does not work anymore; banks have become more powerful than our politicians.  The government now has a policy based around Fear and Greed.  The rich are getting
richer and more powerful, while the great masses of America wallow in poverty.

Must we continue to exist in this passive state, only living to serve the rich and powerful?  Or do we, the great masses, stand up against the policies of Fear, and Greed, and
God?  We must break the bonds that
separate us, we must pull down the centers of Greed and Fear and we must pull
down the houses of God.  

These borders are created to separate us into individuals where we can be controlled easier.

We must stand up, against the tyranny of the centers of Greed, and Fear, and God; quoting John Adams: “People should not fear government, government should fear people.” 
Once we stand up to Fear, to Greed, to God, we will become united!

This being said, I advocate the collapse of the Capitalist system and the foundation of the United Socialist Federal Republic, in which the government will exist to serve the people. 
Capitalism is Dead.  We must put
it out of it’s misery and move on toward Socialism. (to view the 19 pages of discussion)

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It depends what you mean by capitalism... Yes the US and most of the world has been taken over by a steep pyramid monetary system. Hitler and Stalin had something right... The Federal Reserve (the private banking old boys club of Zionist plutocratic oligarchy) use their tentacles, the IMF, the news and pop cult-ure, and the global pentagon based military empire to subvert nations. The game is rigged though... we do not live in a true free market plutocracy because those at the apex of the social pyramid control the volume of money in the market and are therefore above both money and the law - they use the monetary system as a slave to serve them. 


Down with the: Digital Fractional Reserve Monetary-Monopolistic-Patent-Pharmaceutical-Media-Censorship-Indoctrination-Conspiracy-Persistent Threat-Prison-Agrochemical-Military-Industrial-FAITH Complex


I am sure I forgot something.

Education is the most important aspect for any revolution.

But like you said, we need the United Socialist Federal Republic to bring about the United Socialist Federal Republic, correct?

I am an eternal optimistic, tis in my nature. We must fight for out future and then one day we will be free

Look up the economic model called the Social Credit developed by Clifford Hughes.

There are great ideas in there. It is a workable economic model that could be wrapped around our capitalist system without needing a revolt first.


Although, the revolt is coming.

We live in a mixed economy, not a capitalist economy. Second of all if you're concerned over businesses that are so large that their collapse could crash the national/world economy then we need to all have a serious talk about expanding our anti-trust / monopoly laws to break them up before they crash.
What do you mean?

Could you elaborate, please?

There is no hard and fast definition that narrowly defines all mixed economies, so I'll just give you a generic definition.


The United States being a mixed economy fits the following criteria. 


1.) It has a degree of private economic freedom.

2.) It uses government regulation to mitigate that freedom in specific ways.


There is a reason why I mentioned businesses that are so large they could crash the global economy.  Take for instance JP Morgan Chase, they're valued at over $2 trillion.  If they collapse due to taking risks it could very well be the cause of a global depression.  So how do you mitigate that?  All you can do is propose to the global community that sectors of the economy that can't safely collapse should undergo a process akin to trust busting / monopoly legislation.  That way they're split up before they can cause drastic harm.  However I'm no expert on this matter.  Thus it should be the experts that hammer out the specific details to prevent such an occurrence. 

So you are stating, and please tell me if I am wrong, but you are stating that the large businesses must be broken up before the move towards Socialism. When they collapse under socialism, it will not bring the world down with it, correct?
I'm not suggesting we move towards socialism in the slightest. Countries do best when primarily regulating business to prevent pollution and to insure the common good. I'm just suggesting that instead of allowing companies to exist beyond that imaginary threshold of "too large to fail" is idiotic. If their collapse could be a serious threat to the economy then split them up to minimize the impact if they were if they were to go bankrupt.
But you are still suggesting that large companies must be broken up into smaller ones, else their collapse could crash the entire market, correct?

I will still head toward socialism, though now I will need to do so, slower.
A miracle???????? They no longer have clean air to breath, our out-of-order electronics get dumped in China to be dismantled and burnt by downtrodden Chinese children, and what do we the West get in return? Their toxic food and cheap short-lived textiles and "craftsmanship". China is no more a financial miracle than Ireland is... It's not a miracle when wealth is taken from the masses and given to the elites.

Your opening line is just plain false...... Capitalism still works better than any other system i have seen.

Yes the US economy is in some trouble but it will come back.....

some of our current problems have actually been exacerbated by socialist attempts at fixing the economy.

if you think a socialist approach is so much better just look at Europe.

The rich may just keep getting richer in your mind but to reward people for anything other than hard work will not motivate.

this generations rich wont be next generations. the first generation makes the wealth and the next maintains and the 3rd loses it.

I see no examples of wealth consistently staying in any one family generation after generation in the capitalistic model.

Old money still exists in both the US and Europe.  I sincerely doubt the De Beers and the Rockefellers are condemned to the middle class by the third generation.  Nor the royalty in various nations face the ignominy of no longer being privileged without a political revolution.


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