Do we have a democracy in the US, or a plutocracy? Or somewhere in between? Or something completely different? How much does money really influence American politics?

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"Mexicans of today" who complain about their "sovereign rights" to New Mexico, Texas, and California


If you turn off Fox News long enough you will see that Aztlan is a myth.

I forgot to add Arizona to the list - and whether or not it is a myth, it is one shared by many Mexicans (particularly illegal immigrants and their supporters) include La Raza - check this out on a recent controversy with the comedian Katt Williams:

The Plan de Aztlan
Until the NAU conspiracy theory largely pushed it aside, the so-called Aztlan conspiracy was the dominant fear in the minds of paranoid nativists. Hawked most heavily by two hate groups — the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, led by Barbara Coe, and American Patrol, headed by Glenn Spencer — this theory has been so widely circulated that CNN's Dobbs reported on it with a straight face. The theory is based on the "Plan Espiritual de Aztlan," a real document adopted in 1969 at the First National Chicano Liberation Youth Conference that originated in the student group MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan). A radical document that reflected the spirit of the times, the plan called on Chicanos (Mexican Americans) to "reclaim the land of their birth" and unite to fight "oppression, exploitation and racism." It is still occasionally cited by a handful of left-wing Chicano activists in California as a valid document and plan of action. But nativist forces, including a probable majority of the 250 new anti-immigration groups that have sprung up in the last two years, do not see the Plan Espiritual as a relic of the counterculture of the 1960s. To them, it is the founding document of a bona fide conspiracy endorsed and backed by Mexico and, in some versions, by most Mexican Americans. They have described it as an explicit plan to "reconquer" the seven Southwestern states and merge them with Mexico.



From the Southern Poverty Law Center

The fact remains that way too many Mexicans still believe in this "myth" as you call it - it is reality. You may live in a warped world of cultural relativism but I find that to be one of the gravest threats of society. Did you even watch the clip I posted of Katt Williams in which there was a recent controversy based on this very issue in which a Mexican in the crowd said "this is all mexico" and subsequently Katt Williams went on to teach him a little history is the full clip of the encounter:

Yeah, I guess a racist would rather take the word of another racist then accept facts.

Katt Williams is not racist - he just keeps it real.

More brilliance from KW:

"If [Stephen Hawking] doesn't believe in God, then he's just another cripple guy with a bad idea." On Cameron, the MIA comedian said, "Kirk Cameron is brilliant," later adding, "God still runs this earth, Satan's breath still stinks."

He is a comedian. He was making a joke. But he does believe in god - that's his right - but Katt Williams is educated and intelligent. Don't let his act fool you - I have been to his shows, he always educates the audience. In fact, he had a full scientific scholarship to a 4-year university after he graduated but he decided comedy was for him and dedicated his life to comedy. He is a genius at what he does; and a very intelligent individual.

But to the original point: I live in Southern California - way too many Mexicans believe that they are somehow entitled to be in America although they are here illegally. They believe that they have legitimate rights to New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and California. In fact, when these illegal immigrant protesters and their supporters go protest in Los Angeles and shut down streets - they don't even pretend to be Americanized and wave American flags - but proudly and pompously wave the Mexican flag. When there was a recent soccer game at the Rose Bowl in Los Angeles between the United States and Mexico, they booed our national anthem and turned U.S. flags backwards. This is a grave threat to America's future sovereignty; in particular with the atrocious demographic and child bearing rates of the Mexican community. Only in America are the children of illegal immigrants who are born in our country automatic citizens. This is something that needs to change - our country was built on immigration to a large extent but LEGAL immigration based on diversity and those who want to become Americanized and to assimilate into our society; not illegal immigration from one particular demographic group from our southern border in which they feel entitled and feel that "this should be theirs". I suggest reading a masterpiece written by the great and late political scientist Samuel Huntington entitled, "Who Are We? The Challenges to America's National Identity"

So he was making a joke when he said that all Mexicans should got back to Mexico?


And some information on the author you cited.

He said that those Mexicans who are here illegally - and those Mexicans who refuse to give their loyalty to America while living in America (such as the pompous heckler who said "this is all Mexico") should go back to Mexico - yes. If you don't appreciate this country and feel that Mexico is great, go back and live in your "great" country. BUT at the same time he was giving shout outs to his "Mexican-American homies", if you watched the full 8-minutes or so.

And Samuel Huntington is a distinguished and legendary political scientist who pretty damn accurately predicted world affairs, power struggles, and conflicts with his legendary and infamous book, "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order".

When DOES history start for you, yesterday? last month? last year? last decade? last generation? last half century? It is one thing to look at history and call it passé, but you can only say it's passé if you have significantly DEMONSTRATED that laws have been changed and past harm compensated. The point of having laws is to modulate present activities. When those laws are broken, it IS up to the "future" to fix things, since by definition the crime happened in the past! Criminal activity needs to be punished, even when in the past. Unjust activities need to be decried, even when in the past. Otherwise, we can never be held accountable for our actions. The past being passé was also used by perpetrators of genocide and war crimes to evade their criminal pasts. I put to you that it is not the passage of time alone which constitutes "the past", but actual correction and restoration... until those happen, the past is still very much the present.
If our generation or the generation of our parents did not directly suffer the said event such as slavery or the genocide of the Native Americans.




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