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The US: Democracy, or Plutocracy?

Do we have a democracy in the US, or a plutocracy? Or somewhere in between? Or something completely different? How much does money really influence American politics?

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Permalink Reply by Frankie Dapper on September 30, 2011 at 5:21pm

There are a number of sharp and thoughtful comments here.

Dogly, when I refer to discrimination emanating from the corpse or religion I am not so concerned about discrimination against atheists. It is significant but it is minor in relation to the whole.

You are correct in pointing out our utter failure in connection with animals. I just dont think humanity as it progresses (if it progresses) will be willing to place much importance there until out own ship stops listing.

Do you consider Jefferson a great man? I dont. Cant buy the excuse that his acceptance of slavery was excused by the mores of his period. And perhaps it is so with those of us who realize animals are sentient and emotional and intelligent; that inspite of that knowledge we alter our practices little to none.

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Permalink Reply by Jedi Wanderer on October 1, 2011 at 7:59am

“I hope we shall crush… in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

-Thomas Jefferson

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Permalink Reply by AgeOfAtheists14 on September 30, 2011 at 9:20pm

well it's not a theocracy nor monarchy so seculocracy?

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Permalink Reply by TNT666 on October 1, 2011 at 2:34am

oh ya, those secular Humanists and their manifesto. :) More sheople.

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Permalink Reply by Will Faithless Sophia on October 5, 2011 at 2:34pm

http://www.infowars.com/targeting-the-real-enemy-occupy-the-fed/

http://occupywallst.org/

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

http://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/

http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/

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Permalink Reply by Jedi Wanderer on October 5, 2011 at 5:00pm

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Permalink Reply by TNT666 on October 5, 2011 at 7:35pm

Thank you, very effective visuals.

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Permalink Reply by Will Faithless Sophia on October 7, 2011 at 10:36pm

http://www.marxist.com/surprise-golman-sachs-rules-the-world.htm

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Permalink Reply by Jedi Wanderer on October 8, 2011 at 7:33am

Yeah thanks Will, I've seen this video already a bunch of times, it sure does drop one's jaw! I wouldn't mind learning how to make money off of a downward market as well. The mainstream media always gives the brightest, most optimistic perspectives of "society", etc., as if progress is inevitable. But sometimes, you get to hear the darker side. No way they are letting that guy back on BBC. I recently caught a segment (somewhere) which also called into question the future of the EU and the global economy, and there was one guy who was talking about the impending collapse of the eurozone and potentially another european war. Some guy who wrote a book about how Germans are going into Greece as tax collectors and someone is going to get killed because Greeks are used to their tax collectors NOT collecting taxes... Sorry my memory is so bad.