I just found out that Vegemite is both Halal and Kosher.
I've been eating Vegemite my whole life and I just noticed the Halal and Kosher signs on the bottle.
So no longer shall I eat my beloved Vegemite, as I refuse to eat religious food or any product that supports or advertises religion.
I sent two emails off to Kraft, one to Kraft Australia and the other to Kraft in the US, wishing them luck with one less customer.
I put this post here because, if I was to have ever held anything sacred it would have been Vegemite. But this can no longer be so.
So, what can I put on my toast instead of Vegemite? Any ideas?
Tara, I agree. You said that perfectly.
"They're merely telling people that Vegemite complies with specific dietary restrictions that just happen to be observed by people who are religious."
Along with Becca, Good point.
I think there is a large difference between religion and vegetarianism/veganism. But in Australia many people are critical by Veganism, and such people may be offended if a vegan label were to be placed on an item they bought.
So is the topic we are really talking about here 'freedom of information' to all consumers?
For me I still can't buy Vegemite any more. The Kraft corporation is condoning religion. It is saying it is obeying the laws of God. It is processing food that follows the laws of God. For me it is a definite, no way.
It's very difficult for people to be vegetarian in Japan. A lot of meat-derived things, like bacon or fish sauce, aren't considered meat, here. Plus, vegetarians must learn kanji for ingredients if they decide to buy processed foods. Being vegan would be extremely difficult, unless all you were going to eat was tofu salad or things you make at home. I have some Jewish friends who can't always eat kosher, but they are appreciative when they see the label. It means they don't have to fuss with asking if there's pork or looking for 豚肉 in the ingredients list. Though, this is Japan and not Australia, where there isn't so much a literacy problem for most alien residents.
The other thing to consider is that kosher butchering (when it is performed correctly) is one of the most humane ways to put the animal down before its carcass is turned into meat. Moot point for yeast, I know, but for other things like sausages and packs of meat, consumers might choose kosher over non for that reason alone, even if they aren't jewish.
Being vegan or vegetarian anywhere in the non Western world is easy. The only problem with being vegan is finding vitamin B12. The reason why being a vegetarian is easy, is because in most non-Western countries, meat is too expensive for the average person to afford. Vegetarianism is their only option. Meat is only served on special occasions.
While in Japan, if all you want to do is eat processed food from 7/11 then this might be a little harder if you can't be bothered learning Kanji. And Kanji is an extremly simple thing to learn, so no excuses when you are in Japan.
Kosher butchering is humane??? You have to be joking. Who ever told you that is a liar.
I suggest you start to research things that you would like to say before you post here.
We are diverging for the original topic which is probably along the lines of: freedom of information for all, to put it politely or from my point of view, sycophanting to the religious.
Thanks for the reply.
俺は外人で生まれたんですが、俺の第二国語が日本語です。もう２０年間以上日本語を勉強しています。I must say I do have an unfair advantage in the Japanese language. But like anything in life it comes down to perseverance.
In regards to the slaughter of animals, I am biased in area. Mainly because I eat vegan most of the time. The only time I eat meat or dairy is when I visit my nieces and nephews and eat dinner with them. Their parents wouldn't appreciate me indoctrinating them with my personal views. So I just eat what they eat and say thank-you at the end of the meal.
Getting back to the issue at hand, I must thank you for your comment. After a bit of googling I just found the Halal certification mark for Japan:
and the Kosher one, kind of:
Man, these religious people are well organized.
Kanji. The only way to learn how to read and write it is by repetition. Repetitively writing it and repetitively readig it. I've easily written over a million Kanjis in my life time. At my peak, I was writing over a thousand a day. Just the same Kanji again and again.
Maybe they still sell
The book is a little different to what it was 20 years ago though.
It is sold at Kinokuniya in Shinjuku and that's pretty much how I learned Kanji. Everywhere I went I always had one of the series in my hand, studying Kanji. I started at year 1 and did them all until year 6.
Being Vegan or vegetarian in Japan is easy, except if you want to socialise. As soon as you make friends, it's almost impossible to escape meat. When I'm by myself I eat vegan, when some one offers me food I just eat it, regardless. Even religious food. Except for when I'm in China, I just can not bring myself to eat dog. I say no ever time, and people just laugh and offer me something different. I think they know foreigners can't eat dog.
Out of curiosity, are there vegan and vegetarian markings used on products in some countries?
It looks like there are. I rarely eat processed foods, so I've never really looked.
I'll continue with the Kosher stuff in another post.
Such people need to find better hobbies than getting outraged over such non-issues.
The Kraft corporation is condoning religion. It is saying it is obeying the laws of God. It is processing food that follows the laws of God.
That's not what they're doing or saying. They neither formulated nor processed the product to conform with the "laws of God". It just happens to be Kosher and Halal by it's very nature, and they're making it convenient to their customers by indicating the fact on their label. As The Nerd said, it's Capitalism. Customers like things easy, and it's much easier to look for a symbol or simple label designating a product Kosher, Halal, vegetarian/vegan, gluten free or whatever than to painstakingly read the entire label of every product.
That's not what they're doing or saying. They neither formulated nor processed the product to conform with the "laws of God".
As The Nerd said, it's Capitalism. Customers like things easy, and it's much easier to look for a symbol or simple label designating a product Kosher, Halal, vegetarian/vegan, gluten free or whatever than to painstakingly read the entire label of every product.
I am also a consumer. And I refuse to buy anything religious. Kraft now has one less customer. Good on me.
I think you are being a little extreme here but if you don't want to eat foods labeled as kosher whatever.
Kosher/Halal labels are not only useful for religious people. Many people with dietary restrictions for health reasons, vegetarians, vegans and those with allergies find the labels useful too. If it costs any money to get a product certified kosher that cost is moot in terms of what the consumer pays for the product. Besides I am always in favor of foods displaying all the information they can on their labels that way the consumer if they so choose can be informed about what they are putting into their body.
Below is a link to the process to get the OU kosher label put on your food. Seems to me the only expenses for the company are a one time processing fee and paying for airfare for the Rabbi to come inspect the food processing plant. Not so expensive so passing off costs to the consumer isn't a good argument.