Has anyone here every thought about what if there happened to be a god. It doesn't really matter what god or what religion just if there is one. When you die what do you think they/him/her would say and how you would react? If they were a god that passed judgment, do you think that they would understand your reasons for not believing and forgive you or would they punish you without question?

I was raised Christian and while I don't believe anything they say, the above still crosses my mind quite often. I'm a musician and I get a lot of gigs playing for church services, especially around Christmas and Easter. It's hard not to listen to the sermon and try to understand their way of thinking during these times and these questions always pop into my mind during and after the service.

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Yes, Amelia, or punish those who do not grovel before it.
As that great theologian, Homer Simpson, once explained to his children, "God is very insecure..."
Cripe, we got a closet theist in here!
as much as I love this topic, the 13 pages of comments tell me that there are plenty of people already militantly defying the Pascal's Wager idea.

It really isn't good reasoning for feeling sorry about not believing in god. There are plenty of reasons why.
Rather than asking myselfself "What if there is a God?" I ask myself "What sensible reasons do I have to suspect there might be a God?" The answer, of course, is none.

I find this simple process usefull when analyzing other propositions, like "What if there really are Magic Beans?" and " What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?". This leaves me more time to ponder more important things like "What can I do today to make life a little better for myself and others ?" and "What kind of cheese should I put on my sandwich?"
What is the Hokey Pokey.... Sex after roller derby.

The author of Hokey Pokey recently died...there was a bit of confusion in the funeral home when they tried to put him in the casket, "You put your left foot in, you take your right foot out, you...."
Pascal came from a culture steeped in Christianity, its influence, its dominance, and its fear-mongering. Science in his time was hardly in its infancy, and the brand of rational thought we enjoy now was a stark rarity in his time. Anyone in Pascal's time indulging in his wager were a product of those influences and that they indulged is not surprising.

We live now in the age of science, methodology and logic, where rational thought is slowly but surely displacing superstition as the primary means of evaluating our reality, how it behaves and what we can do with it. The brand of "crossing your fingers" which Pascal's Wager represents has no place and is unsupportable by any form of rational analysis.

Pascal's Wager is an ass-covering gambit used by people either unsure of themselves or insufficiently self-possessed to stare down cold facts without blinking. It amounts to a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card, except there is no jail to get out of. It's like the ether theory of light or phlogiston theory of chemistry, outdated and deserving of being discarded.
I have an electronic mouse trap and peanut butter that works unfailingly. A mouse every morning, every year, until the are gone for that Fall period.

I was thinking of baiting it with gold and placing it in the garden.

Milder than alien deathrays I admit, but then...quite the topic eh?

I am getting bored with dressing in black from toe-to-toe, getting up at 4AM with a salt shaker in hand, and preying on slugs and snails...which reminds me of my neighbor's snail who was attacked by two slugs while working in her garden. The police were called and arrived, asking her "Well ma'am, could you give us a description of these two felons?" To which she replied, placing back of hand on forehead, "Ohhhhh, I don't know officer, everything happened so FAST"
Well, there is no reason to think about what if there is God because there is no God.

The problem with the idea of God is that when you are asked to give a definition of God, the definition will have to contain the essential characteristic - omnipotence. Omnipotence is not possible in reality. To disprove it all we need to do is to find something that is not possible to perform in reality. An example would be two mutually exclusive paths where one can only choose one but not both. God cannot choose both and therefore God is not omnipotent, which contradicts with the definition.

Psychologically, human beings have the temptation to imagine an omnipotent being because they feel helpless for whatever reason. Christianity simply fills their psychological void and give them a hope to deal with whatever that make them feel helpless. Christianity, in my opinion, is just like a drug that allows a person to escape from reality.
"Christianity, in my opinion, is just like a drug that allows a person to escape from reality."

Seconal and Nembutal work very well, science-fiction also...beats a Reader's Digest (used extensively in the Christian community along with cold showers, in an attempt to mollify erections.)
I mean, why do you think there are so many Reader's Digests in your doctor's office? Erections of course! Take one home, he won't mind, thats what they are there for.
You've got a point there as some one asked me the same thing and my reply was "If there is one, in which I doubt, then I am sure I would be judged that I sacrificed most of my life and money to helping the oppressed and the less fortunate. I worked in the Civil Rights Movement most of my life and love all living things and the civil rights of all humans. So that might be taken in consideration. However if there is a god I just can not accept in even the most iota of thought that there is a devil as it smacks of fairies and boogeyman's. But the idea of god whom has power over life and death would let people beat up and kills gays, rape women, molest children, cause famines, floods, earthquakes, blizzards, war, disease and all of the other terrible things committed to the human race has me in doubt of such a being rather a spirit or as the Hitteon Faith describes as "everything we see, feel, touch and hear is but the illusion of the creator god in which we are it." That might make more sense than anything else to me; a being who is totally alone who day dreams and it/he/she begins to believe its fantasy is real and therefore it is real in its sight. Sort of like an insane being left all alone in the universe with no hope of there ever being another like it, creates from its day dreams a universe that does not really exist except in its own mind and it is you and me that is the real being, but we imagine that the other is really an illusion. Therefore since we are this lone being we can imagine anything we wish and it will manifest its self for us. We do not need much money to live on, yet we have everything we want and power beyond the greatest power possible and with this power we can control others. I joined the Hitteons back in the early seventies after quitting the Mormon church and rose through their priesthoods and there was some truth in what they taught. So I can understand your wondering.


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