Has anyone here every thought about what if there happened to be a god. It doesn't really matter what god or what religion just if there is one. When you die what do you think they/him/her would say and how you would react? If they were a god that passed judgment, do you think that they would understand your reasons for not believing and forgive you or would they punish you without question?

I was raised Christian and while I don't believe anything they say, the above still crosses my mind quite often. I'm a musician and I get a lot of gigs playing for church services, especially around Christmas and Easter. It's hard not to listen to the sermon and try to understand their way of thinking during these times and these questions always pop into my mind during and after the service.

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I would kick him in the ass. Well, depend on how much disrepancy between actual God and bible God, of course. But if it is indeed bible God, I'll switch to Maltheist and rebel.
I think that Richard Dawkins answered this question by posing another - What if Zeus or any of the other archaic gods were real? Once you consider this you can no longer take the question seriously.
You're absolutely right.
And thanks for reminding us of this bit of brilliant logic.
Or, as Homer Simpson put it, "But Marge, what if we're going to the wrong church? Every week we're just making God madder and madder!"
Richard Dawkins, although brilliant, often ducks questions by supplying rote and/or
circuitous answers. This is one such example. The question is "What if there is a god?".

Saying "there is not a god" is not responsive.
I suggest that one should not worship anything or anyone, including their teachers and heros. Dawkins is certainly admirable, but accepting his pronouncements as facts is not, in fact it's directly opposed to his teachings.
Refusing to respond to a question is legitimate - unless one has announced that they are open to questions. In that situation, a more honest response would be "I don't wish to respond to that question".

So, What if Zeus is real? Are we all damned? Maybe Zeus just doesn't care one way or the other? Maybe Zeus has been occupied in fighting for supremacy with Baal, and having just won, is turning his attention to us!!! Then what?

I look at it this way. The probability of a god existing seems very small to me yet I know that many seemingly smart and successful people believe that a god does exist. So, perhaps I'm simply wrong. Either they are mistaken or I am. Am I smarter then they, or somehow more attuned to reality? I think I am but they may disagree. Perhaps they are right? I have decided for myself that the probability of me being wrong and them being correct, multiplied by the cost of me behaving as a religious person does, is non-productive. I think that probability is vanishingly small and the cost of religion is quite high, so I'm not very concerned about acting atheistically.

I don't think Dawkins' answer is circuitous at all. It is a rather straight forward response, designed to point out the absurdity of the question, when viewed from one step back.

And, rather than hold himself out as the measure of all things, he has placing the onus on the questioner, to first enlightened him as to what it is, in the questioner's mind, that would presuppose the existence of one god, over the another? (thereby forcing the questioner to confront the obvious answer for themselves.)
If there is a god, then there is a god. What of it? It's like asking "What if I am the only being in the universe and everything and everyone I experience is a part of my imagination?" Well, then it is. I can only go about my life as the evidence dictates I should, and evidence indicates that there other beings.

No god or gods have made their existence known, so I can only live my life as I do--by following the dictates of rational thinking.
First off, stuff like "the question is irrelevant because there is no god" is, well, pretty fucking appalling in a community of so-called freethinkers.

But on to the point:

If the existence of A god of some sort ever became a fact, anyone in its right mind is expected to acknowledge it and adapt, why not? I'm well ready to, if the idea ever makes real sense, if anything substantial shows up. Now, say the catholic-like god himself shows up in all his infinitesimal minuscule chance of existing. Then, my friend, we would have a hard time "adapting", aka "burning in hell".

If the personified, male, Abrahamic ,god exists. You know, the tyrannical, sadistic god that gets really snappy when people don't believe his existence, then ,for starters, I and everyone in this network would be all very, very, VERY fucked, beyond any stretch of imagination! rofl
And obviously, we would be all burning in hell before we ask any questions when he decides to do his little apocalypse thing. And worse, all the holier-than-thou ultra-religious fucks and even the average bigot cunts we met throughout our lives would be laughing at our faces saying "I told you so, it's the apocalypse! Burn in hell, atheist! But we love you!". They would not only be right, but they'd be getting special favors from their demented old testament god of theirs. The pessimistic voice in my head would finally have no obstacle to reign free "Well, Bruno, ironically, after a life of trying to be a good and fair person, you found out, against all fuckin odds, you were actually created by a giant humanlike all-powerful, all-knowing, all-douchebag entity that represents everything you ever fought against. He went on a vacation and now he's back - no explanations - to kill your ass and basically fuck you for all eternity because you didn't have any decent way to know he even existed. Like that was any reason to get all vengeful monster on you. No wonder why all things just and reasonable seem to always end up crushed in the clutches of despotic assholes in our little world. It's the way of HIS universe."
And those would be my last thoughts before eternal damnation. Fade out.

Fuckin dramatic, eh? So, yeah, I guess that would suck. But luckily the odds seems to be waaaaaay on our favor :P
I think your response illustrates the absurdity of the existence of a god. How could such an entity be moral and ethical and then do this to anyone? This is self contradictory which to my mind makes it impossible. When something is impossible, the question of "what if" doesn't apply. For example, it is like asking what if the earth was both a planet and the size of a carbon atom? Impossible.
I have no problem with people making the statement "I believe in God".

It's when the try to apply a false scientific method to it; I.E.-itelligent design. Religion and science have never and will never be compatible.
I don't believe it can be said with certainty that there is or is not a god, so I see no issue with his questioning. I, too, was raised Christian, so I can relate to where he or she is coming from.

For me, I guess we won't know for sure till we die. If it were a god who valued true conviction then simply professed (surfaced) conviction, then non-believers might not suffer (if there is a sort of punishment for disbelief).




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