Without death penalty, prisons would be overloaded. Criminals would be released to make room for new criminals and many of these criminals who were sentenced for life for murdering or raping someone would be roaming the streets where you live. lots of tax money is wasted on these criminals, people who plan to murder would have nothing to fear since they are guaranteed they won't get any harsh punishment and that would increase the crime rate. And the planet is already over populated, so why not get rid of the rotten apples?

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Our prisons are overloaded in America. And the death penalty is not used to any such degree that would actually have an affect on overall prison population. Also, many people see the too-often-done screwups that end in the death of innocent people and say we should scrap the whole idea.

Me, I am in the middle. In theory the death penalty is ok, but will it ever be applied correctly? I don't know, but I have serious doubts.
Also, I know that if I did something terrible enough to warrant life long incarceration or the death penalty I would rather take the death penalty than be released to the general prison population. SCREW THAT. Off me, please.

What I just said may be the best argument against the death sentence. lol Death>rape,beatings,torture of prison
I agree with you, I too prefer to die then spend my life in prison.
Wow yeah! So, like, instead of actually KILLING another human being, just rely on the conditions you put them under to make them WANT to die. BRILLIANT!!! Now we can have a clear conscience when we extinguish another human beings life because they've become too big a problem.

But wait ... there's something nagging in the back of my mind ...
Ok, I get that but, from my point of view, it's still simply being condemned to death. After all, their only alternative is being given an existence that is apparently worse than death.

It still looks to me like the system is built around the idea that criminals are problems to be done away with. I thought we'd come a long way from that kind of mentality with the advances in psychology and human understanding.

Clearly there's a correlation between certain early life experience, living condidtions, and prejudices etc and the incidence of criminal or violent behaviour. So surely the only just thing to do is to get a better understanding of how to eliminate, or at least significantly diminish the conditions. Instead we condemn those who happen to fall into those categories, treating them as our 'good christian' forebears have taught us to - 'Criminals have freedom of choice, therefore must be EVIL'.

I think killing is wrong, unless it is literally the ONLY way to save innocent life.
Personally, I am against the death penalty for three reasons:

  • The theory is that capital punishment is a deterrent against capital crime. For what I see (and yes, granted, I haven't lined up any statistics to back me up), it's failing miserably at deterring anyone from committing such crimes.
  • The endless number of appeals involved in any death penalty case winds up being more expensive than the simple incarceration of the perpetrator, who remains jailed whether his case involves the death penalty or not.
  • Even with DNA evidence, there remains the possibility (and occasional occurrence) of the execution of the wrong individual
Point one: I don't think these punishments are designed to stop crimes, because that's almost impossible. I think they reduce them a lot, my personal experience with this matter is; I find it a lot less safe in western countries then in my country, especially at night.

Point two: This is a good point. I don't know much about how much a prisoner costs every year, what if someone spent 40 years in prison, I'm sure prisoners cost a lot of money, they need food and water, prisons cost lots of money because of electricity, maintenance, equipments and facilities.

And, the more prisons you have the more you will spend; I think this money is better spent on kids who live in poor neighborhoods, who have a very high chance to be future criminals because of their situations.

Point three: I think it should be applied only when there’s a very strong evidence or when the criminal confess.
I agree with you Loren, but I would go further. My experience of the legal system is that there is plenty of injustice in it. Justice is more likely for those with power, money and influence. I believe there are people who deserve to die. I just don't trust the system not to put the wrong people to death. The Innocence Project has now rescued >100 people from death row with DNA evidence. And scummy prosecutors in dozens of states are trying to prevent review of such cases. I also happen to know first hand what a cesspool of legal swine we have locally...
I was reading about a man in Florida who had been wrongly imprisoned for rape for several decades and new DNA evidence exonerated him. He ended up getting millions of dollars b/c the state law was to give a certain amount of money for every year falsely imprisoned. He had a big smile on his face and said he was happy...so it was sort of a sad and happy story.

One reason people are wrongly imprisoned is b/c of being misidentified at lineups. We think "what could be more accurate than being shown faces and picking one of them out?" but they are one of the least reliable forms of evidence in a criminal trial.
Particularly when the ID is cross racial. You know all those ______ look alike. But, in reality, studies have shown that the ID is less accurate outside your own identifiable group.
You haven't actually done any study on these issues, have you? You're just speaking from a purely hypothetical viewpoint that's completely unrealistic.

First, let me make my views: The death penalty should be used when no other means of control is successful. If a person is able to either escape prison (such as Ted Bundy) and kill again, or if the person kills in prison for any reason other than the death penalty, then they clearly pose a continuing threat to any society they have access to. It should not be used for party law cases, at all. I'm from Texas and we have a man on death row who provided the guns for his fellow gangsters to rob a crackhouse. He did not participate in any other way. >.X

It costs far more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for the rest of their natural lives, because of the expenses of appeals, which they are entitled to up until the Supreme Court. It does not reduce crime rates by instilling fear because the consequences are too far ahead for the average criminal to be concerned. Consequences needs to be immediate to prevent a crime from occurring. And as crazy as it seems, there are not enough murderers on the street or in prisons to make any kind of dent in the population.

If you want to deal with overloaded prisons, primarily you should fight to make marijuana possession a lesser sentence. A large portion of prisons are filled with drug-related activities not crimes-against-persons.
Well, that's good to know. I'm going to school here in California, going for a doctorate in forensic psychology with the hope of working in prisons. I will most likely go for my license here before I go home, because California has the strictest requirements.

I know with increased populations, there is also an increase in moving over to private prisons.


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