Why Atheists Can't Be Republicans

CJ Werleman's just published  Atheists Can't Be Republicans.

That atheists are secularists is one reason why atheists can’t be member of today’s Republican Party.

The Grand Old Party (GOP) is ... a theocratic sponsor,...

Atheists can’t be Republicans because the economic and social policies of the Republican Party have been proven abjectly false and dangerous. Much in the same way religion is false and dangerous. In other words, atheists who cling onto modern U.S. conservative ideology are hanging onto ideas that have either been proven mythical at worse or remain unproven at best. If atheists applied the same litmus test to their political ideology as they do to theology, then clearly an atheist cannot be a Republican.

Atheists are the fastest growing minority in the country. We now have the critical mass to shape elections and policy. Were atheists able to establish a monolithic political demographic, one that is based on proven economic and social policies, then our potential political power would translate into saving this country from the clutches of the American Taliban and Wall Street.

On the other hand, the author also says,

... I have come in contact with as many idiot atheists as I have with idiot Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

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... I have come in contact with as many idiot atheists as I have with idiot Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

I'm not sure I would use the word idiot, but definitely greedy or indifferent.  The mentality of "well, I've got mine, brother, you get your own" is a trait of human nature that can inflict people of any ideology. 

The Republican party is not the Great Satan.  I could see limited-government type conservatives trying to influence the Republican party away from its religiously influenced socially conservative policies. 

No, the "Republican party is not the Great Satan". It is a party with an agenda, a values system, with attitudes, beliefs, customs, traditions and values (ABCTVs) that impact how they think and act. If a culture follows the ABCTVs, they put in place policies and practices that reflect their values. 

If values include seeing others as objects, as something to be dominated, as someone inferior to one's own superiority, a means to an end, then those values reveal themselves in words and deeds. 

"The Great Satan" has nothing to do with discernment or critical thinking; it has to do with an element of those who believe in superhuman powers. 

If values include seeing others as objects, as something to be dominated, as someone inferior to one's own superiority, a means to an end, then those values reveal themselves in words and deeds.

You can demonize people who you disagree with, without being a theist.

The statements you came out with, are "making Republicans wrong". Demonizing is perhaps too strong a word for it, I was being rhetorical.

There's truth in many things that Republicans say. 

I know that some Republicans and some Democrats say wise things that need to be addressed. Fiscal conservativism is an important issue if not distorted by either end of the spectrum. 

The problem I have with most Republicans is their value are different than mine, and I think the differences are important. 

I will stand up for

* women's right to control over her own body,

* promoting sex education based on science, 

* offering adoption, abstinence, abortions and referral to abortion clinics,

* supporting taxes on unearned income, 

* elimination of tax loopholes and offshore banking, 

* balancing the budget, but not on the back of wage-earners, 

* federalizing marriage as an agreement between two adults, 

* defining homosexuals as compatible with military service, 

* supporting advancement of women in the military 

* ending a corporations as person, 

I haven't even touched crime, education, energy, environment, free trade, government reform, foreign policy, gun control, health care, homeland security, immigration, jobs, yet. I want to get outside while the temperature is still cool enough to work. 


I think most or all of the socially-conservative agenda is plain wrong. 

But, how about saying something nice about Republicans?  Just see if we can and what we come up with.

We can often learn the most from those we most disagree with.

Balancing the budget may be crucial for our future.  The national debt may hurt us all in the end. 

Government should not get too powerful.  I don't want bureaucracies running our lives. 

Sarah Palin makes sense to me sometimes.

One example:  She criticized environmentalists for pushing oil drilling miles off shore, as harmful NIMBYism.  When oil companies drill for oil from rigs far offshore, it's MUCH more difficult to deal with a leak, like that gigantic oil spill that happened when drilling a mile or so underwater.  It invites giant oil spills and environmental devastation. 

People are much more conscious of oil drilling on land or not in deep water. 

So it gets pushed far offshore, into deep water. 

Republicans also criticize environmentalists for wanting to ban all sorts of use of resources - WHILE using those resources.  Also quite accurate. 

Anything painting Republican positions in a one-dimensional negative way - is inflammatory.  This book's title is inflammatory. 

I am not a Republican, but I'm not going to settle for Republicans as the enemy. 

Ignorance, selfishness and shortsightedness as the enemies. 

There is a point here.  I sure as hell am not a Republican, I'm just as strongly not a Democrat.

But there is a tendency to assign (irrationally pure)  evil motivations (racisim, greed, etc) to people on the other side of political picture that are far from accurate. The world is far more complex than that. Painting opponents as comic book villains is a cheap shot that means one hasn't thought through the issues very well at all.

As a side point, here's an interesting science news blog. [www.science20.com]. The blogger is very much a scientist, and while it's not a political blog, it seems clear he is a Republican. Among other things he has problems with the anti-science wing of the left (quack medicine and woo) as well as the creationism of the right.

The national debt is not the great obstacle to progress, but the individual debt. It has gone up in response to the loss of money income and buying power of the wage-worker. First, they tried credit card debt until they ran up to the limit, then they started mortgaging their homes to maintain a living standard of the early 1970s and then many lost their jobs, their incomes, and failed on their mortgages. Many lost their cars and their ways to get to work. Purchasing power fell and continues to be low for the wage-worker. 

Yes, the national debt is terrible because the thing that the money was spent on was bullet, bombs, wars. All destructive of people and their lives and standards of living, and destructive to infrastructure. 

If the national debt had been spent on education, health care, job creation, the economic engine could be restarted. As it is, we are in one hell of a mess. 

Democrats and Republicans contributed to the trend to send production overseas, banking off shore, and profits for the wealthy. Unearned income is not taxed at the same rate as earned income, giving wealth a great advantage. 

Notice government debt during the Reagan-Bush41-Bush43 years. 

Compare their deficits with Clinton's surplus.

While Repubs were calling Dems taxers-and-spenders, the wimpy Dems did not call Repubs borrowers-and-spenders.

When wage earners and small businesses want services they pay for them through taxes or fees. The services they need, such as police and fire protection, health care, education, decent roads, reliable utilities, garbage collection, disability and unemployment protection, and retirement funds are paid for by the wage earners and small businesses. 

The wealthy have the means to buy most of these services on their own if they want extra protection. In gated communities, they have their own police force if they want it and they use the roads, water and sewer, utilities, water hydrants and education paid for by the tax paying public. The wealthy also have ways to avoid paying taxes that wage earners and small businesses do not. 

For those who are unemployed, underemployed, disabled, old, young, and for whatever reason not having adequate income, they need these services, whether they can pay for them or not. For these people, it is the community that needs to share in the costs incurred by people who can't pay. 

The matter of those who are too lazy is a stickler. People with perfectly capable bodies but minds that do not work at an adult level present a problem for some. Why are able bodied not working? I can't answer that one. I just know that I do not want people to live on the streets and panhandling. 

Sarah Palin makes sense to me sometimes.
One example: She criticized environmentalists for pushing oil drilling miles off shore, as harmful NIMBYism.

Luara, environmentalists did not push drilling miles off shore. Oil companies went there because there was oil to be extracted.

Unless we see oil drilling rigs, refineries or fracking, most of us see gas stations as the face of oil companies. We accept these things as we do light poles.

When you go to sleep tonight think about the hundreds of millions of cars that leak oil that is then washed into drain system and how much of that will end up in groundwater.

I see that as a serious environmental threat. Republicans see it as another thing to deny because paying for cleanup has to come out of someone's pocket.




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