Why Atheists Can't Be Republicans

CJ Werleman's just published  Atheists Can't Be Republicans.

That atheists are secularists is one reason why atheists can’t be member of today’s Republican Party.

The Grand Old Party (GOP) is ... a theocratic sponsor,...

Atheists can’t be Republicans because the economic and social policies of the Republican Party have been proven abjectly false and dangerous. Much in the same way religion is false and dangerous. In other words, atheists who cling onto modern U.S. conservative ideology are hanging onto ideas that have either been proven mythical at worse or remain unproven at best. If atheists applied the same litmus test to their political ideology as they do to theology, then clearly an atheist cannot be a Republican.

Atheists are the fastest growing minority in the country. We now have the critical mass to shape elections and policy. Were atheists able to establish a monolithic political demographic, one that is based on proven economic and social policies, then our potential political power would translate into saving this country from the clutches of the American Taliban and Wall Street.

On the other hand, the author also says,

... I have come in contact with as many idiot atheists as I have with idiot Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

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Freethinker, thanks for your speedy post, BUT I DID NOT SAY BUSINESSES SHOULD NOT BE TAXED. I SAID THEIR INCOME SHOULD NOT BE TAXED. Do tax them for government services, such as fire and police protection.

Am I reading your post as you intend. that taxes should be hidden from we who pay them and we should just suck it up and pay them?

But businesses should not be taxed and individuals should not be taxed either. And most of the government does not need to exist. I would eliminate the department of energy, the environmental protection agency, department of education, NASA, the federal bureau of land management, the department of housing and urban affairs, SNAP (food stamps), WIC, home energy assistance, NOAA, and is am sure there are other ways the government could cut expenses and quit stealing from us. If people want to start private organizations which would provide charity and make money from donations or fundraising without just steeling from us, that would be fine.

What we need is a massive jobs program such as Roosevelt put into place before the WW II began, and Eisenhower's highways program after the war. They put many unemployed workers to work after the Great Depression and after the austerity experienced during the war. 

Borrowing or printing money for massive projects to put people to work meant workers would have wages to spend on goods and services. It included educating people for new and more complex jobs, who could find better jobs than flipping hamburgers or washing dishes. 

We very badly need to get off fossil fuels and convert to renewable and sustainable energy sources. Many jobs could be created, many small businesses could be started and they are the real job-creators. More people working for wages, more $ circulating and everyone benefits. 

I am very sure that I am politically approximately an Ayn Randist/ objectivist / libertarian or small government conservative. I do not want the government to fix social problems. Fixing social problems is best left to social workers working on their own or with private organizations that have to earn their own money. A lot of liberals like to whine about how unfair it is that some people earn more money than other people. If you want more money you have to use more brain power, work more, and / or work smarter. People don't need their parents to tell you how to operate their businesses and people do not need a government hanging over them like a parent or religion telling them what to do. The higher the minimum wage is, the less people that can be employed. You are thinking like a liberal or a poor person. Try really hard to think like a rich person or small government conservative or business owner or Ayn Randist.
Liberalism is like religion. The liberals tell you about all these so called social and environmental problems, and then the libels they tell you how they have the solutions, so you better vote for liberal democrats or the Green Party or some brand of liberals, if facts and logic matter, otherwise you are wrong, evil, and so on.

Oh, yes. Do we remember NASCAR? Every now and then you meet someone who will tell you their "likes." For example, beer, bar-b-que, and NASCAR.

"There they go now (motor noises) and they are coming into the first turn." (More motor noises) "Here they go again making a left turn." (Motor noises again) "Now they are making another left turn."

It never excited me much. Just an endless event of left turns.

I'd say no one can become a republican (or democrat for that matter). The notion of allying to one of two parties is ridiculous. As a best fit for something so important it's not fit for purpose. If anyone is so politically unsophisticated that they are able in all honesty to say "here's a list of 500 policies and I agree with all of them" then they're doing it wrong.

I am unique, and so is everyone else, Choosing a political allegiance in such a ham-fisted way is little different to using astrology to plan your life. We should be asking for proper digital democracy and acting more like individuals, not subscribing to and perpetuating a political mob mentality.

Incumbents who are assured of re-election are dangerous.

I'm happy that more people are registering as independents, especially if their states have open primary elections. It increases voters' bargaining power.

What I like to do is focus on commonalities instead of differences.  No matter what Party an individual supports, there is common ground between all of us.  
Every activist who lobbies the government for something, no matter whether liberal, conservative, etc. is competing with much more powerful players than themselves.  Their elected representatives are more beholden to those who put them in office than the actual constituents they are bound by law to serve.
Politics is corrupt because politicians need money to run for office.  They need fees to compete in certain debates.  They need money for billboards, commercials, travel costs, etc.  
Regular individual citizens simply can’t compete with the vast amount of money that a large corporation can donate to a political candidate, whether that corporation is donating for a liberal or conservative agenda.
My idea is that all activists, even those who have opposing viewpoints, should temporarily join forces to get money out of politics.  A daunting task, I know.  But think about how many activist groups there are, each lobbying for their own individual causes.  If each activist group united, could you imagine how powerful a force it could be?  Even if 50 percent of them joined forces, it could make a serious and effective change.

Hi, New Atheist. I agree; getting money out of political campaigning has to be a goal.

People who become active soon learn its importance, but if they become partisan their main priority might become beating the other party by all available means.

I've found that the people most likely to help are those who are seeking substantive change (for or against a bill or policy), such as environmentalists.

However, I found too that persuading them to add procedural change (money, secrecy, etc) to their priorities requires some persuasion.

If you're in the US of A, does your state constitution have initiative and referendum provisions?

About 25 states do, most of them western states. Many eastern states don't. With initiatives, people can get reform without its being blocked by corruption in legislatures.

I doubt that Congress can be reformed without a national initiative and referendum amendment in the US Constitution.

Any thoughts?

Old but still relevant: The Daily Weasel "Rules for Being a Republican" (archived at the Wayback Machine).

A few bits:

1. You must believe that being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime - unless you're a millionaire right wing radio personality; then, it's an "illness" and requires prayer for "recovery".

2. You must believe that those born to privilege achieve success all on their own.

3. You must believe that folks who work for their money should be taxed at a higher rate than those who inherit theirs.

4. You must agree that racking up huge amounts of debt to future generations is worth the few thousand extra in tax breaks you give to your wealthy "investors."


7. You must believe that pollution is ok, so long as it's profitable.

8. You must support prayer in schools, as long as no one is allowed to pray to Allah or Buddha.

9. You must believe that "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

10. You must believe that a woman cannot be trusted with decisions about her own body, but that large multi-national corporations can be trusted to make decisions affecting all mankind with no regulation whatsoever.

11. You must love Jesus and believe that Jesus loves you, and that He shares your hatred of the poor, homosexuals, and the Clintons.


Corollary / commentary on the above:

You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do.
-- from Usenet



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