I was reading an article in the "Atheist Revolution" blog and I came across this snippet:

When I encounter a parent telling her children about Santa Claus, I may find it unfortunate that someone would lie to one's own child merely for entertainment purposes. The potential for harm here seems trivially small. I cannot say the same for the Muslim parent instructing his son in the virtues of martyrdom or the Christian who tells her daughter that her Jewish friends will go to hell because they have not been "saved."

Could we not add something like the following to the last sentence:

...or the jew who tells his kids that he's "chosen" and has a covenant with god that entitles him and his "people" to the land of Israel, and then uses that as justification for a bloody occupation of Palestine.

The one-year anniversary of Operation Cast Lead is approaching (Dec. 27th) and I think we should take a look at where we've come since then. The Goldstone Report: buried. Settlements: expanding. Palestinian house demolitions: continuing.

As atheists, we should be appalled whenever religion is used to justify actions that result in suffering or death. We do not seem to hesitate to speak out when a child dies because a Christian Scientist eschewed Western medicine in favor of prayer. We do not seem to hesitate to speak out when a Muslim nutjob finds motivation in his religion to grab some firearms and gun down some people. Why are we silent when an ethnic group uses a story about chosen people and covenants in The Big Book of Jewish Fairy Tales (aka, the Old Testament) to justify what is looking more and more like a slow, methodical ethnic cleansing campaign? Why do the Jews need to have Jerusalem all to themselves? Why is it so important to them to have a Jewish majority that they'll turn Gaza into a prison camp and The West Bank into Swiss cheese where the Palestinians are forced to live on smaller and smaller plots of land and endure more and more restrictions on their movement? If this were being done to a Jewish population they'd be screaming about a second holocaust.

The bottom line is that all three major religions are guilty of many modern-day atrocities and have a great deal of blood on their metaphorical hands. Why do we only bewail the actions of two of those three major religions?

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You are the only Elissa I know. Or dont know to my detriment.


If you read that you probably also read the Mysterious Stranger which I thought was loads of fun.

As for Jonathan he consistently argues against the stereotypical construct of the mythical Jew and fails to respond to what you have actually said. In so doing he brands himself an anti-semite.

Seems like a balanced and reasonable response, Sassan K.

I think it is also true that rejection of religious indoctrination is an indication of intelligence. In fact the greater the orthodoxy and cultism of the indoctrination the greater the intelligence required for rejection of same.

That makes intuitive sense (at least to reason-based atheists).  Do you know of any study to support it?  That, too, might be considered a bit ground breaking, even after the one demonstrating the decreased intelligence of FoxNews viewers.

Hey Doc I bet most assume you are male in our stinking sexist civilization.

I have seen possibly two, at least one study supporting that proposition. There is a contributor/author on AN who writes about breaking with her super christian cult upbringing. Think she made some reference to such a study. May have also seen a study on sciencedaily.com.

Will look.

Also of interest saw study-European jews have higher IQ than other europeans.

Atheists know more about religion than theists-no surprise.




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