i see there is "Black Freethought" as one of the groups listed on the main page. is there something different about black freethought as opposed to white freethought or just freethought without any race attached? would it be tolerated to post a "white freethought" or "caucasian freethought" group? this is sickening that this is allowed here.

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Freethought and Censorship is a contradiction. Sounds like facism and control freak. Excessive use of profanity is a sign of lack of intelligence and professionalism.

You like to make assumptions about people you know nothing about. Arabs are a semitic people. Have you ever received funding/grants from North Americans? What credibility do you have amongst most people in the black community?
Any use of profanity in polite circles is bad manners.

Limiting your language by excluding all Anglo-Saxon words that might have some sexual connotation is prissy self-censorship. The sort of thing you expect from a god-botherer who thinks that only using nice words will blind his foolish gods into thinking he's not guilty of doing bad things.

The term 'X community' is another in-group attempt. A 'community', used in this hyper-abstract sense, to denote a disparate group, identified by one characteristic, but otherwise heterogeneous, is simply a political device. The user attempts to use this hypothetical 'community' to justify his own statements and prejudices. It's bogus and should be shown to be so whenever raised and no matter what the 'X' is.

One might say that the 'thinking community' is opposed to being trivialised as people by being identified simply by the activity and agility of their brains - but you'd be wrong there, as there is a self-promoting group, 'Mensa', who are exclusive simply on the measured size of one organ.
Negros like you will never learn. You fall for that divide and conquer tactic over and over again they have used against us for centuries. You are still a slave.
Everybody's 'still' enslaved by something!

Describing another group of people as 'them' and describing them as attacking, or a danger, to 'us' is the essence of racist thinking.

If you mention specifics - the current government is increasing its level of taxation on the poorer people, for example, then you can avoid that sort of in-group/out-group playground posturing.
Everybody's 'still' enslaved by something!

Yes, "We Are the World." Lets all hold hands and sing "Kumbaya" together.
Well, that's up to you, and your musical sensibilities.

That doesn't, though, exclude you from the charge of thinking in a racist manner.

Having suffered something doesn't give you or anybody else, the right to inflict that same suffering on others.

If you are really concerned about slavery, why not speak out about slavery that still exists today? Literal slavery in some countries. In many others, a form of indentured labour, inflected by credit card companies upon people where their income becomes diverted to paying tax and the interest to these sharks - that's slavery that needs moral indignation raised against it.

Actually, I see that, in the US, some small steps have been taken against this recently, which must be applauded.
That doesn't, though, exclude you from the charge of thinking in a racist manner.

Having suffered something doesn't give you or anybody else, the right to inflict that same suffering on others.

If you are really concerned about slavery, why not speak out about slavery that still exists today?


I don't have the power to be a racist. White people are not the victims of non-white supremacy because it doesn't exist. If a delusional white person feels they are the victim of their imagination I would suggest psycho-therapy.

When did I say I was REALLY concerned about slavery? The 13th amendment of the US constitution abolished slavery in the US in 1865, except for in the correctional system.

I have been a grassroots organizer for half of my adult life including prison issues. There are hundreds of thousands of oppressed colonized people in my city alone who need to be liberated.

Peter what is your racial background/phenotype?
Ralph, you really are an embarrassment to the A/N community. You STALK other members from forum to forum with an obsession to make personal attacks. If you acted this way in real life a person could get a restraining order against you.

Please stop embarrassing the A/N community. A/N is a valuble resource, so don't try to ruin it for the rest of us over a personal vendetta. You are in your 50's so start acting like it.

And if you don't believe in free speech, which you don't, and if you want to silience people who do not agree with your politics, then you don't belong here or in the United States of America.

Farrakhan responds to charge of anti-Semitism (Al-Jazeera)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl13wd70ZSg
You seem very angry.

The world would be a much better place if everyone just chilled out and talked everything out over a bottle of wine, don't you agree?
I don't drink alcohol or put poison in my body.
Anger is also a poison.
>I don't have the power to be a racist. White people are not the victims of black racism. Black racism against white people doesn't exist.
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This is the fundamental misunderstanding! It's an important one, though.

'Racism', or 'racialism' is the negative discrimination against people on the grounds of race. That's it.

This doesn't require power. If you simply act in an unmannerly manner towards somebody because of their race, you are being racist. If you boycott businesses because of the race of the people who own them, you're being as racist as if you don't employ people because of their race.

Racism is symmetrical. Anybody can be a victim or a perpetrator of a racist act. The matter at the heart is the disrespect for people simply because they belong, or you believe they belong, to a racial group.

You live in a very insular world, clearly, but that's not uncommon in the US. If you read about Zimbabwe, over the past few decades, as just one example, you'd know about terrible atrocities, racist atrocities, performed by black Zimbabweans against white Zimbabweans. In Zimbabwe, as in many other places, white people are a minority, not a majority. So arguments linking racism to minority or majority politics are simply wrong and naive.

Of course, simple facts won't dislodge religious belief. If you have some sort of idée fixe that your claim about racism is true, then I imagine that learning that you're wrong won't help. If, though, you genuinely are an atheist - that is, not a believer in things for irrational reasons - then I hope you'll consider the meaning of 'racism', realise that you're wrong, and use another, more accurate name for what you're saying.

At the moment, though, what you are saying is, not to put to fine a point upon it, racist.

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