Whats your view of the WikiLeaks controversy?

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Our government should expect no privacy when it can't respect the constitution. They get no sympathy from me. 


"In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble."  Ron Paul



Political Terrorism? Hardly. If this is terrorism... I mean... fuck.

Transparency? Sure, but Woodward and Bernstein he's not.

There are a few significant differences between what W/B did and Assange.

1) W/B had a point. They found something evil that was being kept secret, analyzed it, researched it, did journalism and made their argument. Assange managed to get or find someone happy to indiscriminately lift documents and send them his way. I doubt sincerely that he looked at all of them and I don't know what his point was.

2) W/B had something worth disclosing. The Pentagon was hiding their conclusion that the war in Vietnam was already a failure while still spending lives for years. It has yet to be seen if anything on that scale of evil is going to show up. Given that no country has gone ape shit yet suggests to me that there isn't anything to be found -- unless Silvio Berlusconi being a giant douche is a surprise to anyone. Then again I could be proven wrong, we'll have to wait and see.

I believe in transparency but I also understand the need for secrecy. So when secrecy is broken there better some good reason for it. It's hard to believe that Assange really knows what he has if he has anything. Unless I figure out at some point down the line that he had a point to make besides "secrets are bad," this is just dickery.

I think Asange is doing a service for Americans by releasing the information he has on his website. I don't really believe one life in the military has been in any more danger since the release of this information than they were before its release. There's really only one reason for government secrecy and that is to protect the government from its own population.

I view it as a new model for journalism.  If we're to crack down on Wikileaks then we might as well crack down on the New York Times for collaborating with them.  And I for one out of all the news I've seen from Al Jazeera English, France24, and others have yet to see any information that warrants surrendering the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution. 

Stealing is criminal..... 

Transferring stolen goods is just as criminal as the thief that stole it.

If someone illegally obtains my personal data and then someone else publishes it aren't they both in the wrong?

While I am not privy to government document classifications, something considered "Classified," "Secret" or "Top Secret" is taken very seriously by the US government, trust me.  On one occasion while servicing a system at the National Security Agency, I had to leave the room, because, using their protocol, I could not be in the same room with a given item!  No, I'm NOT kidding.


My take would be that any action outside of legal channels, subsequent to the theft or unauthorized distribution of any such classified document is going to be actionable as a Federal felony, at minimum.

I could justify it in my head if he really did uncover and reveal some seriously shady stuff but as of yet I haven't heard of anything worse than, "Our diplomats think their diplomats are shit heads."

What has been revealed that is both new and substantive?
Most of it that is new which I think people should be aware of involves our government's collusion with big business against 3rd world countries. The reason why I say it's collusion is that the government was hardly neutral by suppressing this knowledge in their cables.



I have a major problem with that Julian Assange did, in that he released US classified documents.  Is he releasing anything from Russia?  China?  North Korea?  In short, is he doing anything to counterbalance his actions which have the effect of compromising US diplomatic action and give the advantage to the above-mentioned and other powers?


Further, what do you suppose would happen if,  by some rare bit of luck, Assange WAS able to glean something from Chinese or Russian State Security and post it on WikiLeaks?  Back in the day, the KGB had NO problem with "eliminating" anyone who posed a security risk to the former Soviet Union, and with Putin effectively in the driver's seat, I doubt mightily that they'd be any less bold now.  Same notation regarding the PRC and as for North Korea, who knows?


Releasing just ONE SIDE's secrets creates an out-of-balance condition, a potentially dangerous condition depending on the content of the material released.  In what appears to be Julian's colossal naivete, he figures that ANY release is good, never mind pulling down the pants of the US as cyber-sport.  In this regard, I think he is badly mistaken, and his arrogance in indiscriminately publicizing US classified material (I hope) will have a high price tag attached for him.

Since the government continues to pursue never ending wars, they cant turn around and get on their moral high horse when secrets are revealed. Big government has become over mighty.

That's all fine, well, and good, but my question still remains: WHY isn't Julian Assange pursuing secrets from all sides on an equal footing?  Is it because it's easier to pilfer US secrets or because he and his organization would get its ass kicked by governments less tolerant of such hi-jinks if he did ... or both?

In other words, he's taking the path of least resistance ... the EASY way.  And let's not kid ourselves - Russia as it is now is not far removed from the Soviet Union of 30 years ago, where Putin was the head of the KGB and would take out an effete dick like Assange without a second thought if Assage trespassed on Vladimir's territory.


Far as I'm concerned, Assange deserves whatever he gets ... and if by some chance he gets nothing, then he should be at least as careful of the American intelligence apparatus as of the KGB ... as I doubt they much appreciate his attitude or his handiwork any more than the Russians would.




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