Atheism and social action


Atheism and social action

We discuss the problem of solidarity and atheism. For example we need advices for people who lost their beliefs and want something new. We must strengthened the idea of social solidarity and discuss the ancient faults of the Left

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Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on July 7, 2010 at 6:44am
[USA] Republicans Want as Many Unemployed People as Possible,
Because They Think It Will Get Them Elected

From now until Nov. 2, the Republican Party will be the party of unemployment.
Dean Baker / The Guardian

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 30, 2010 at 8:35am
announcement: Keynote speaker to be Noam Chomsky

anti-War conference in New York.

Voters for Peace is pleased to be a co-sponsor of the conference along with 28 other organizations. I'll be participating in a discussion about whether a right-left alliance against war and empire is necessary and useful. The key note speaker for the conference is Noam Chomsky. You can see more about the conference
at: .

The United States finds itself in two long wars - Iraq and Afghanistan - and with attacks escalating in Pakistan along with threats against Iran. Dick Cheney called the "war on terror" the "long war" and projected it lasting generations. This is a time for unity in action against perpetual U.S. wars. Unless Americans who oppose war come together and in a concerted and consistent way - we will continue to see our nation always at war, draining resources, resulting in needless deaths, undermining the economy and making a mockery of the rule of law.

You can register for the conference
here: .
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 29, 2010 at 6:46pm
I agree. -- Gary
Comment by Ralph Dumain on June 29, 2010 at 1:49pm
I don't dispute the need for cooperation with religious progressives, but I categorically reject kissing their asses. There's a time and place for practical cooperation, as there is for the war of ideas. The latter should not be reduced to the former. Sloppy thinking, ideological conclusion, and unprincipled pandering is endemic to the left.
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 29, 2010 at 1:40pm
Dear Ralph,

I mostly agree with you. But I like another comment on the site following the article. My problem is being divisive when with people who share social concerns and compassion. Among those liberal religious who are committed and active in social justice, I was never closeted about being an atheist AND I was never criticized for it. It's just a non issue among committed people.
-- Gary
Comment by Ralph Dumain on June 29, 2010 at 11:27am
On this ridiculous article by Scofield, see my commentary:
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 29, 2010 at 11:00am
liberal religious and social justice, the concerns are mutual...

Should I Quit Being Christian? Some Questions for the New Atheists

By Be Scofield / Tikkun

June 28, 2010 | on

[Scofield] ... I'm a liberal religious person who doesn't believe in doctrines, dogma or a supernatural God. 19% of members in my tradition identify as atheist, 30% as agnostic and the rest Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Pagan or otherwise. Many of us have been wounded by the bigotry, homophobia and dogma in the religions we grew up in and find refuge, support and community in my tradition. We come together on Sunday mornings to enjoy music and hear sermons about social justice, the power of community and how to live inspiring and meaningful lives. ...

article on line: READ MORE:

[Note: I, who posted this article and not the author, personally dislike the name "new atheist." Atheists were just as succinct and outspoken back in the time of "Classical Greece" and all through history. Read "Doubt: A History" by Jennifer MichaelHecht. The problem I've encountered in Los Angeles is too many people in Atheists United are so immersed in their atheist cult they have now concept of social justice. I had to explain to one 30+ year old young lady who Martin Luther King was! The only social issue she was familiar with was the cause of atheist and anti-religion. -- Gary .]
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 28, 2010 at 11:36am
G20 governments to slash hundreds of billions of dollars in public spending

from Globe and Mail [Canada]

Fears of another crisis spur nations to promise cuts

G20 governments to slash hundreds of billions of dollars in public spending in unprecedented co-ordinated belt-tightening

[note: As reported this am on, Naomi Kline said of the USA, that Pres. Obama will put on a nice face and publically sympathize with the working class and job loses "while he lets the states do the dirty work." Expect more professionals in civil service and public schools to laid off. Austerity programs are notorious for downsizing the middle class. I suspect that the people at The Cato Institute must be dancing with joy on their desktops.]

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posted by Gary, Los Angeles
> (national)
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 28, 2010 at 11:35am
3 quotes for the news

"If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?"
-- Alice in the novel "Alice in Wonderland"

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell

"The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink."
-- George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language", 1946

"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same."
-- Marie Beyle
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on June 22, 2010 at 11:42pm
Killer Coke: Coke kills labor leaders, union members and organizers.

crimes of CocaCola


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