Atheism & the Law

Legal issues involving atheism, agnosticism, and freethinking, including discussion of the constitutionality of laws or policies that violate the 1st Amendment, how atheism affects marriage and divorce, and anything else of a legal nature.

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Tax Exempt Organizations

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 9, 2016. 4 Replies

I think I'm suffering from separation anxiety. This is a recent Catholic Vote missive:I am proud to be a co-signatory to the following letter authored by George Weigel and Professor Robert George…Continue

Tags: exemption, tax, separation, Catholic

The Most Evil Organization on the Face of the Earth* Doubles Down on Unadulterated Sleaze

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 11, 2016. 1 Reply

According to Time:Catholic Church Tells Bishops They Are Not Obliged to Disclose…Continue

Tags: bishops, evil, abuse, Vatican

Rand Paul and Chris Christie Join the Anti-vaxer Crazy Train

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Pat Feb 4, 2015. 5 Replies

It appears that anyone anticipating that the upcoming Republican primary is going to make the last one seem sane in contrast is not in for a disappointment. Mr. Pierce, as is his wont,…Continue

Hobby Lobby: 0, Client: Won

Started by James M. Martin Dec 30, 2014. 0 Replies

I hesitated to comment on this lest you think I am crowing about a courtroom victory I had as a criminal defense attorney involving Hobby Lobby as the complainant, but I finally gave in, so here it…Continue

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Comment by Loren Miller on February 13, 2016 at 1:52pm

Joan, what that statement tells me is that the priests want to behave as though they are not answerable to the communities they live in.  They think they're above us, better than us, yet they do crap like this.

It is so far past time they were held accountable, I wonder if the distance could be measured in light-years!   This has gone on long enough!

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 13, 2016 at 1:32pm

Oh my goodness! Here are two voices from the past that we will not read again, James Martin and sk8eycat!. Death may silence them even as their words live on. 

As to the statement

"saying instead that the decision to take such claims to the authorities should be left to victims and their families."

Imagine a little boy or girl telling Mommy and Daddy that the priest fondled and penetrated him or her, and then the devout parents thinking about their options. Whom do they trust, the child or the priest? 

The abusing priest commits a crime and has to be reported! 

To do otherwise is also a crime. Priests and popes, get off your asses and behave as a civilized human being. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 13, 2016 at 2:56am

On the Roman Catholic Church telling bishops they are not obligated to report child sex abuse to civil authorities: they have just destroyed whatever shreds of "moral authority" they may have had remaining.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 11, 2016 at 6:36pm

Bertold, your article below deserves the full treatment.  Please submit it as a full post!

Comment by sk8eycat on February 2, 2015 at 4:03pm

How do we fix THIS?

Comment by sk8eycat on December 15, 2014 at 6:12am

Are the various Washington DC Mall museums government property or private?  I have seen several YouTube videos of the USAF orchestra and choir playing and singing blatantly religious xmas songs there from the past 10 days.  ("Whose Child is THIS?"  Joseph's or the Wholly Goat's?) Can they do that? legally?

Comment by James M. Martin on June 28, 2012 at 5:08pm
Those old scales of justice are coming slowly back into balance: if it doesn't entirely make up for Bush v. Gore and Citizens United, the AHA decision suggests that not all the Scalito crowd are knee-jerk conservatives. The surprising thing is that Roberts looked to the tax clause and not the commerce clause for constitutionality. The question now is, will the Right argue taxes are subject to repeal, so the mandate could be gutted by Congress.
Comment by James M. Martin on May 7, 2012 at 6:34pm

Thanks, Steph.  I blog here now and then.  I am becoming acutely aware of the role religion plays in our court system.

Comment by James M. Martin on January 8, 2011 at 5:39pm
Well, now, let's say Percy Shelley had contested in court his being disowned by his religious father, wouldn't his atheism have become an issue?  I rather doubt the bench would allow in such evidence in this day and age, but we have a judge a couple of counties away who keeps a "God" slogan next to the American flag.  I think it references the commandment about bearing false witness.  As if we had to be religious to avoid that!  No, I think atheist issues will grow in importance in jurisprudence of the 21st century.  I hope it does.

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