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Predictions in Science Fiction movies

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The Unbelievers

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The Ledge (2011)

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Prometheus?

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Ten Favorite Atheist Films

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Cloud Atlas

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Documentary: "8: The Mormon Proposition"

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Moneyball

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Real Steel

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How an Iranian film unites us all (CNN)

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agora best atheist movie?

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Most Disappointing Movie Ever

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The Cove

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John Barry is gone

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A Serious Man

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Comment by Loren Miller on April 28, 2011 at 4:07pm

Lots of Germans put a lot of importance on Mein Kampf, but that didn't MAKE it either right or essential to life, egan.  Same notation on the bible.  The ONLY reason why I have gotten to know it is to refute it when dealing with people who have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. 

 

Oh, and I'm not particularly christianophobic - if anything, they'd better damned well be afraid of ME.

Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 3:24pm

Yes Egan, I have seen it. Wasted a couple of hours of my life on it, I'm sad to say. It's been a while, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

I'll point out again - Washington's character was guided and protected by a mysterious power... if that isn't an allegory for the supernatural, then I'm a creationist. Not to mention the time he had taken on his quest - how many years? I forget - but it seemed like a ludicrous amount of time to be wandering around in a wasteland.

 

If they didn't want to make it supernatural, they could have chosen another book - not the KJV, hell, Origin of Species would have been just as relevant. Perhaps we should research who financed it? That would throw a bit of light on this. Philip Pullman's movie adaptations have been tossed largely because some Xian orgs. have protested and similarly the god-awful Narnia nonsense gets big bucks from some right-wing loons. [Not to mention that the Golden Compass was a travesty to the book.]

 

I don't want to add spoilers so others can judge, but we both know what made Eli so "special" and there's no way that could be anything natural: and there certainly was no suggestion that he was a cyborg.

 

 

Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 2:51pm

Quite Loren... Egan, the problem is with the premise. If it's blind faith, then fine - but wait - WHY the KJV? Why no some "non-religious book?" remember that this "book" was going to save the world. That was a major premise of the film!

 

Not only that, but look (if you'll pardon the pun) at Denzel's powers... hardly worldly are they? He's bullet proof AND can kill a guy stone dead with a single shot - without so much as stopping to aim. The guy is clearly under some supernatural direction and/or protection...

 

Which film were you watching?

Comment by Loren Miller on April 28, 2011 at 2:20pm
Utter and total agreement, Mark and TNT.  Sure, I've read Fahrenheit 451 and considered the possibility of "becoming a book," but who here seriously believes that someone could memorize the entire bible?  Oh, and memorize it ACCURATELY, while we're at it?  Poor career move for Denzel, if you ask me.
Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 2:06pm
Book of Eli was a pro-Bible, pro-Xian movie - pure and simple, Egan. I don't see how anyone could miss that. I was also a very poor script that takes suspension of disbelief and slaps you senseless with it. If you watch it again, but through a critical eye, you will probably see that better than Mr Washington's character.
Comment by TNT666 on April 28, 2011 at 1:27pm
How to misunderstand a movie about the revival/preservation of Christianity???? Tastes are personal. I was not impressed. It's niche market is Christian US crowds.
Comment by TNT666 on April 16, 2011 at 5:50am
Mua ha ha ha, I just went to see Paul, boy, they slapped Christianity around some, it was bloody funny! Lots of strategically chosen homages to classic Sci Fi films. Good date film! :)
Comment by TNT666 on March 14, 2011 at 1:36am
In comparison, Inside Job is a poorly executed sorry excuse for a documentary. It scores all its points from an emotional stance and very few from facts and investigation, it's basically a lazy documentary. Endless snippets of interviews where the criminals who run the country are rendered speechless, and why did this dumb documentary maker think criminals would confess to him when they failed to confess to the higher institutions of justice in our society????????? Just seems ridiculous to present a bunch of speechless criminals... The one interesting factoid I gleaned from the film is the high level of corruption at universities that teach economics (Harvard, Columbia) where profs and senior administrators and presidents are basically mouth-pieces for and propagandists for Wall Street. Yes, I was a little surprised by that. What is economics? is it a science, no, it is nothing. The foundations upon which economists ply their snake oil is as shaky as the foundations of religion. sigh.
Comment by Marc Draco on March 11, 2011 at 5:46am
And we call America a democracy... (not that Britain is much better).
Comment by TNT666 on March 11, 2011 at 5:28am

Just viewed another great documentary: Casino Jack and the United States of Money. An excellent non-partisan investigation into the legalised bribery system called lobbying in the USA. The documentary goes over Jack Abramoff's (page worth the read if you can't see the doc!) political history from his College Republican days, to his time in prison for fraud. Abramoff had his dirty little so far up so many politicians' arses it is amazing! John McCain took great pleasure in taking his fellow GOP down as they were in opposing camps for the then coming electoral campaign. 12 people have been similarly convicted along with Abramoff, all among the highest ranked access to the presidential office, and maybe more to come. The doc ends on two very depressing commentaries on our times:

-In the year following Abramoff's fraud conviction, total lobby money spent went up by 1 billion dollars

-Under Obama, the courts decided to remove the cap on corporate contributions to electoral funds

According to most political pundits, the main drive, in addition to sheer power mongering, for more and more electoral money, is the spiralling costs of re-elections. The only way to put an end to spiralling campaign costs, and by the same token ending the need for a good deal of lobbying, would be to instigate public electoral funding, where all candidates have access to the same budget. Allowing for elections to be decided by quality of candidature instead of wealth. But this isn't about to happen. :(

Outside the financial institutions lobby, one of the other biggest lobbies is "Big Pharma", often handled by Phrma, maybe the topic of the next big documentary smack down... :)

 

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