Carnival Cruises' "Come Back to the Sea" Superbowl ad has stirred, not shaken, the creationist mob.
Apparently the Carnival ad included a voiceover which drew from a 1962 JFK speech before the America's Cup:
“I really don’t know why it is that all of us are so committed to the sea, except I think it’s because in addition to the fact that the sea changes, and the light changes, and ships change, it’s because we all came from the sea,” Kennedy said, really feeling his muscle relaxers that day. “And it is an interesting biological fact that all of us have in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean, and, therefore, we have salt in our blood, in our sweat, in our tears. We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea—whether it is to sail or to watch it—we are going back from whence we came.”
Along with several predictably inane tweets, the extremely humorous A.V. Club blog post noted that no less eminent and eloquent a personage than Ken Ham weighed in.
“Don’t you just want to go on one of their cruises so you can stand on the deck of a big cruise ship, look at the sea, and contemplate your accidental beginnings—and perhaps worship the sea, because it gave birth to you!” Ham asked sarcastically on his Around The World blog. "Oh—and really, you can spend a lot of money on such a cruise, but because you evolved from the sea and are just an evolved animal, and when you die you won’t even know you existed—so you won’t even remember the cruise—so what’s the point anyway? You just evolved to have an ultimately meaningless existence!”
In response to the Big-Ass Ham, Friendly Atheist blogger Hermant Mehta quoted further from Ham's rant and had a few choice words:
Right, that’s what Kennedy was saying. It was about nihilism, not a boating contest.
We see a connection to the world around us… Ham sees only sin:
"So — worship the stars and worship the sea! That’s the increasing state of our culture as it abandons the truth of God’s Word.
Except for the fact that it’s a spiritual issue because of our sin, it’s mind-boggling to think that intelligent people can actually believe life (and the whole universe) came about by accident! Ludicrous!"
It is indeed mind-blowing… but it makes sense after you read up on it. Ken Ham should try it sometime. Turns out you can learn a lot when your library consists of more than just a single book.
Serves as a reminder of why the best bumper sticker and best prayer I've ever seen read Jesus, save us from your followers. It's not just fanaticism, folks, it's clinical insanity.
My response on Facebook and Twitter:
"We came from the sea through an evolutionary process that continues today. We exist as part of a web of life formed naturally by means of natural selection. The Earth was not created for Homo sapiens, it was created as part of the universe.
I'm trying to get my old Smiley face with thumbs up posted here, but my computer just doesn't want to do the work. So, know that I like your "Brava"!
I like that response Joan. : )
Why ... seriously, why is ANYONE listening to Ken Ham any more?
It is getting down right sickening, isn't it! The Ken Hams, and the banana man, and the crockaduck guy need to get out of diapers and start wearing men's clothing and adult thinking.
I really like the idea of all the positives that come from being Agnostics, Atheists, Brights, Freethinkers, Humanists, Rational Responses, Secular Humanists, Skeptics, Spiritual Humanists.
First of all, we can slough off that abhorrent cloak of christ who hung on that cross and died for me. ... and you. ... and everyone else,
and we can stop drinking that heavy cocktail of blood in his wretched name.
and we don't have to get our knees dirty bowing down to an imaginary god, or clasping our hands in supplication to nothing that is there.
If we don't have to do any of those dastardly things, what can we do?
We can be alive, awake, conscious, mindful, aware, and see the matrix into which we popped and out of which we will also pop. We each exist as a bubble in the great adventure of life and living. As a bubble, we can sparkle, dance with abandon, and join with others in a great bubble bath. .
With a large and growing family, a garden of eating and sharing and friends from far and wide, we have all the good things in life and don't have to listen to dogma that binds our minds.
The binding burst off of our brain cells and we can think to our heart's content.
IN REASON WE TRUST!
Joan, when you are on your game ... DAMN!!!
Because there are a lot of ignorant, horribly indoctrinated people in this country. There's a reason that he and Ray Comfort ran here, instead of a more sane country.
Is the Ham-bone really that stupid, or is he just a con?
When at a public forum where they make a claim about the power or prayer or give a rationale for voting a certain way, atheists must stand up and ask him or her for details about the validity of their statements. "Do you really believe ....?" or something to that effect.
When a politician makes an unsupportable claim in the news, atheists must write in asking for proof of their claims.
I don't know how else to hold them to their words.
A few of them might seriously believe in the power of revelation over everything else, like that tripe from Martin Luther, which William Lane Craig is so fond of, about the ministerial and magisterial role of reason. The fact that they reject the revelation of other religious traditions makes the uselessness of their thinking nakedly obvious, but ... well, I guess Satan explains that part away or something.
There are a great many people out there with defective reasoning, at a very deep level, who don't even know how to evaluate claims in a manner that's likely to bring them to a conclusion that's likely true. There are probably one or two of them who truly believe, up near the top of the heap, but experience tells me that any given person who is actually making money off of the edifice of religious belief is probably a con artist, at least half of the way.
More or less, yeah. They go into every argument or pseudo-scientific experiment with a predetermined conclusion, and they think that if they bitch long enough about our supposed anti-supernatural bias, it will mask their own profound bias. We have a LONG track record of miraculous, supernatural experiences being later explained as natural phenomena. With that kind of history, assuming that anything is miraculous, based upon a Bronze Age text, is idiotic.