Carnival Cruises' "Come Back to the Sea" Superbowl ad has stirred, not shaken, the creationist mob.
Apparently the Carnival ad included a voiceover which drew from a 1962 JFK speech before the America's Cup:
“I really don’t know why it is that all of us are so committed to the sea, except I think it’s because in addition to the fact that the sea changes, and the light changes, and ships change, it’s because we all came from the sea,” Kennedy said, really feeling his muscle relaxers that day. “And it is an interesting biological fact that all of us have in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean, and, therefore, we have salt in our blood, in our sweat, in our tears. We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea—whether it is to sail or to watch it—we are going back from whence we came.”
Along with several predictably inane tweets, the extremely humorous A.V. Club blog post noted that no less eminent and eloquent a personage than Ken Ham weighed in.
“Don’t you just want to go on one of their cruises so you can stand on the deck of a big cruise ship, look at the sea, and contemplate your accidental beginnings—and perhaps worship the sea, because it gave birth to you!” Ham asked sarcastically on his Around The World blog. "Oh—and really, you can spend a lot of money on such a cruise, but because you evolved from the sea and are just an evolved animal, and when you die you won’t even know you existed—so you won’t even remember the cruise—so what’s the point anyway? You just evolved to have an ultimately meaningless existence!”
In response to the Big-Ass Ham, Friendly Atheist blogger Hermant Mehta quoted further from Ham's rant and had a few choice words:
Right, that’s what Kennedy was saying. It was about nihilism, not a boating contest.
We see a connection to the world around us… Ham sees only sin:
"So — worship the stars and worship the sea! That’s the increasing state of our culture as it abandons the truth of God’s Word.
Except for the fact that it’s a spiritual issue because of our sin, it’s mind-boggling to think that intelligent people can actually believe life (and the whole universe) came about by accident! Ludicrous!"
It is indeed mind-blowing… but it makes sense after you read up on it. Ken Ham should try it sometime. Turns out you can learn a lot when your library consists of more than just a single book.
Serves as a reminder of why the best bumper sticker and best prayer I've ever seen read Jesus, save us from your followers. It's not just fanaticism, folks, it's clinical insanity.
In either case, the salient feature of their way of "thinking" is that the only part of an argument that matters to them is the conclusion. How you get there is up for grabs and all routes are equally valid. To refer to a Jung story, "It's turtles all the way.!"
More or less, yeah. They go into every argument or pseudo-scientific experiment with a predetermined conclusion, and they think that if they bitch long enough about our supposed anti-supernatural bias, it will mask their own profound bias. We have a LONG track record of miraculous, supernatural experiences being later explained as natural phenomena. With that kind of history, assuming that anything is miraculous, based upon a Bronze Age text, is idiotic.
Oops - the turtle story was William James, not Carl Jung.
If the USA was founded on the basis of freedom of religion, it didn't take long for the wars of Europe that put their people and lands into meat grinders over whose religion was right, they brought that fight to this continent. We will continue to see the USA and the people and soils put through the religious meat grinder. Religion has the power over people to turn them into vicious dogs, willing to kill and destroy all that is good.
The claims of peace, justice and love become empty words signifying nothing.