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Lewis Black: The Flintstones is not a documentary.

A slightly longer version of the clip that used to be here. 

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2015 at 12:17am

The thing is, these people come out of the same gene pool. They are killing cousins, raping the maidens, bashing in the heads of he kids. As much as I have read about the conflict, it has never made sense to me. The Palestinians have lived there for centuries. An agreement by winners of WWII placed the Jews there, with the supposed intent o returning them to their "Promised land".  

Promised land! Promised by whom? Who gave them the authority? Why should Palestinians have to move over and make room for the Jews? The whole deal stinks as far as I can smell.

Given my understanding, as flawed as it is, what debating points exist? 

I see our point: "legitimate rape" or "legitimate occupation"

 

Comment by Joseph P on February 5, 2015 at 12:07am

How would you build a position for a debate, Joseph? On either side? The claims from each side seem imaginary to me.

Joan, do you mean whether I side with the Israelis or the Palestinians?  I lean towards the Palestinians, since the fairly recent formation of Israel based upon millennia-old mythology was kind of unjust.

But it isn't any worse than a lot of the wars of conquest of the 19th and 20th centuries.  How far back does your war of conquest have to have been, for your claim to be legitimate?

Why am I having quotes about legitimate rape running through my head, now?

Comment by sk8eycat on February 4, 2015 at 9:39pm

I faked myself out on that one.  My head has been in a strange place for several days, and I started to reread my Robert Ingersoll collection because I haven't been able to sleep. 

I just finished Some Mistakes of Moses early this AM, and I was still in the mood he creates in that book (supposing, JUST supposing that someone named Mosses did write the Pentateuch) when I read the joke the first time.

I also reread Jimmy Carter's book about how the Israelis have been pushing the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas in the occupied territories. It's appalling, and I feel the Palestinians have a genuine grievance with Israel and the USA.  Never thought I'd say that, but it's true.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 4, 2015 at 9:04pm

Oh, yes. I should have thought. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 4, 2015 at 4:54pm

How would you build a position for a debate, Joseph? On either side? The claims from each side seem imaginary to me. 

Comment by Joseph P on February 4, 2015 at 3:30pm

Sadly, I could see it being based upon real arguments made by some Israelis, although hopefully not by anyone influential enough to get sent to the UN on their behalf.  I think they have a good number of analogues to our fundamentalist nuts, over there.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 4, 2015 at 3:30pm

@ Joan and Joseph - how can you argue with Charleton Heston, Cecil B. DeMille and a cast of 1000s???

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 4, 2015 at 3:02pm

Joseph, as I almost always agree with your comments, this one requires a comment. You and I and we know Moses is, in fact, fictional, until and unless any evidence shows up to cause us to reevaluate.

The problem exists in those who have constructed Moses in their minds. Those stories, told over hundreds of years, lie deeply in the thinking of some people.

Given that reality, how is one to respond?  

Comment by Joseph P on February 4, 2015 at 2:45pm

The fact that Moses is almost certainly fictional is just a side issue.

Comment by Joseph P on January 31, 2015 at 9:02pm

@Bizu Dana

Precisely. Church is ALL about feeling, trust me!

Strangely, the only feeling I ever had about going to mass was boredom.  I even became an altar boy for 5 or 6 years, just to have something to do during mass.  Perhaps the lack of emotional pull helped keep the childhood brainwashing from taking hold, although there were many other factors.

as very young of age i have desacralised all of this, and purged it from my system (although i cannot remember ever believing) and never could get influenced by the general pop culture feeling of shame and humility that everyone seemed to assume only at the precise fraction of second as they passed through the doors of the church.

Same here.  I have vague memories of when I was 5 or 6 years old, listening to the stories out of the Gospels and wondering why the silly adults expected us to believe that they actually happened, when they were so obviously like the stories in Aesop's Fables and Grimm's Fairy-tales that I got told at home.

I was always a bit dubious, but I had firmly concluded that the bible was a bunch of nonsense, sometime around the age of 11 or 12.

And what is worse, the worse of all. Priest walks among people with an overbearing stance and that stupid condescending look in his face.

 i always thought that a person has power only as long as there are people willing to be subdued by power. Same goes for anything that has power

Most of the Catholic priests I dealt with were pretty decent, really.  I think the more imperious, overbearing attitude comes from those further up in the church hierarchy.

I had a couple who I talked to who said flat-out that there's nothing wrong with things like Dungeons & Dragons and other fantasy games, as long as you remember that it's fantasy.  I was pretty surprised by that, given how much crazed fear of demonic influence I had heard from the more extreme, conservative Christians.  I have to wonder how many of the priests I interacted with were the sort that we know about now, who are basically atheists stuck in the clergy.

 

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