Atheist Morality


Atheist Morality

A place for atheists to discuss morality issues. What shapes your morality? What new perspectives have you found since abandoning faith (if you ever had any)? Is there any merit to religious moral authority?

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Religious Faith Morality & Epistemological Absurdities

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As if Nazis tried to gas the whole world

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Dec 22, 2018. 0 Replies

The Moral Outrage Guilt Cure

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 24, 2018. 5 Replies

Addicted to Escape

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Dec 14, 2016. 0 Replies

Sam Harris The Case Against Christianity

Started by dudaboli yev Sep 23, 2015. 0 Replies

Morality as Contagion

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 30, 2015. 1 Reply

Testosterone and Cortisol together raise cheating

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 29, 2015. 0 Replies

Torture - symptom of Decadence

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Dec 16, 2014. 6 Replies

How Religion can make you happy to kill! - Thunderf00t

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Jimmy McCann Dec 16, 2014. 7 Replies

Defining Evil in today's world

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 20, 2014. 2 Replies

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Comment by Grinning Cat on October 23, 2018 at 12:49am

The Trump administration erasing trans people, and unleashing a wave of murder, to distract from Republican corruption? It's possible: 

Republican crime and corruption? No problem! Deflect! Distract! Inc... (Politics, Economics, and Religion)

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 5, 2017 at 12:45am

The Titanic sinks as passengers rearrange deck chairs. A perfect metaphor for climate change. People seem not to understand the significance of current weather events. Some say "Global Cooling," vs. "Global warming" as if it were disputed. 

Speak up about the definition of Global Warming. The threat presents terrible consequences. 

Comment by Plinius on March 4, 2017 at 11:12pm

Of course it is! We can hardly look the next generation in the eye, let alone our fellow animals...

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on March 4, 2017 at 1:55pm
If we fail to stop warming below 2°C, or actually to below 1.5°C, we run very large and basically incalculable risks for humanity.

This is not about the environment, this is about preventing human suffering. [emphasis mine]

Stephan Rahmstorf, Professor of Physics of the Oceans, at Potsdam University, makes it clear that Climate Destabilization is a moral issue.

(screen cap, quote mine)


Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 7, 2017 at 8:27pm

Moral Priorities

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Comment by Loren Miller on August 29, 2015 at 2:51pm

I know I've thrown this quote around A|N here and there, but as it comes to the issue of human vs. biblical morality, I think the following says it astonishingly well:

If I could stop a man from raping a child, I would. That's the difference between me and your God.
-- Tracie Harris

Comment by Rich Goss on August 29, 2015 at 1:31pm

Thanks, Ruth. I wrote that passage a long time ago. Too bad nothing ever came of it. Cynthia, my heroine, had been slipped a pill of psilocybin (DMT), and her entire worldview changed accordingly. One of the most difficult aspects of writing is to convey mood.

‘Please preserve the Earth,’ they cry, like mystical chants of Odysseus’ sirens carried by the winds of time,

Sadly, the chants of future sirens have landed on deaf ears. The planet is in much worse shape now than it was in 2007 when Mirror Reversal was published.

You just gave me an idea of my next blog post.  Feel free to use the passage on Facebook or whatever as you wish. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 29, 2015 at 11:19am

That is very beautiful and poignant, Richard. I wish everyone could "hear" the voices of the future as well as you.

Comment by Rich Goss on December 22, 2012 at 6:17pm

Here's an excerpt from Mirror Reversal that supports Ruth's "Future generations" comment of Sept. 20.

I think it's very beautiful and poignant, but I guess that doesn't count.  I wrote it.


“Once you’re reached a certain level of education, the Bible’s quaint stories don’t answer the questions anymore.  The hope for heaven and fear of hell are just that, mammalian emotions.  But the reasoned belief that a futureworld will exist is all but certain.  And what will the futureworld be like? That should be our main concern.  Instead of worrying about an imaginary heaven as an individual, let’s devote ourselves to entering a real futureworld as Homo sapiens, the wise.  At this very moment there might be future souls praying to us to preserve the Earth and its ineffable beauty.  Sometimes, when I’m listening to Beethoven’s Pastoral Symphony, I can hear the sighs and yearnings of the world’s future citizens.  ‘Please preserve the Earth,’ they cry, like mystical chants of Odysseus’ sirens carried by the winds of time, ‘it belongs to us also.  Nature has only loaned it to you.  Don’t destroy it any further; it can’t be replaced.  Your awareness of the condition of the world, your Earth Consciousness, is the only thing that can save it.  Just get us there and we’ll know what to do.’

Comment by John B Hodges on October 4, 2012 at 3:33am
Re, the quote from Assata Shakur below; certainly the great movements of nonviolent resistance did not rely solely on appeals to the moral sense of their oppressors, they used moral appeals plus mass demonstrations and non-cooperation, such as strikes and boycotts. Further, it could be argued, they were each accompanied by a violent movement, smaller but present, reminding the oppressors that the alternative to peaceful reform was less pleasant. But, the history of nonviolent struggle must be recognized. They did have some successes.

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