NCSE's executive director Eugenie C. Scott was invited to debate Ray
Comfort, a creationist in the news recently for his plans to
distribute copies of the Origin of Species with his own introduction,
on the God & Country blog of U.S. News & World Report. Comfort began
the debate on October 29, 2009; Scott replied on October 30, 2009;
Comfort responded on November 2, 2009; and Scott replied on November
3, 2009. The debate, according to Dan Gilgoff, who maintains the blog,
elicited "more feedback than any other issue on this blog has received
over any similar stretch in its not-quite-one-year of existence."

In her first post, Scott urged students to accept the free copy of the
Origin that Comfort is offering, but not to waste time reading
Comfort's introduction -- especially the middle section. "[It's] a
hopeless mess of long-ago-refuted creationist arguments," she
observed, "teeming with misinformation about the science of evolution,
populated by legions of strawmen, and exhibiting what can be
charitably described as muddled thinking." After giving a number of
examples of scientific errors in Comfort's introduction, she added, "I
have faith that college students are sharp enough to realize that
Comfort's take on Darwin and evolution is simply bananas."

Scott also noted that the copy of Comfort's version of the Origin she
was sent by the publisher was missing four chapters as well as
Darwin's introduction. In his response, Comfort claimed that the next
edition includes the missing material: "Not one word will be omitted."
Scott observed, "It's still missing a crucial diagram from Chapter 4
as well as the epigraphs from Bacon and Whewell, which Darwin chose
with care," and also wondered about the unexplained change of heart:
"Elsewhere he wrote that it was 'abridged because it was too many
pages (too expensive) for a giveaway.' But now he's going to try to
give away even more copies of this more complete version?"

"I stick by my advice," Scott wrote in her second post. "Students who
are interested in learning about science can skip Comfort's
introduction, which, despite a few cosmetic revisions, remains a
hopeless mess of long-ago-refuted creationist arguments." And she
concluded, "Anyone who honestly examines the data supporting evolution
-- even a young-earth creationist [such as Bryan College's Todd C.
Wood, whom Scott quoted as acknowledging, "Evolution is not a theory
in crisis"] -- concludes that the science is strong. If you reject
evolution, you are doing it for religious reasons. You're entitled to
your religious opinions -- but not to your own scientific facts."

For the debate, visit:

For Gilgoff's comments on the reception of the debate, visit:

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Why do people talk to Ray Comfort? I guess they are sure that crazy isn't contagious.
Well based on
When I blogged recently about a new, pro-creationism edition of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species—complete with a rebuttal to the theory of evolution—the responses poured in. "I'm a little concerned," the communications director for the National Center for Science Education wrote me in an E-mail, "that some stuff—such as Ray Comfort's version of On the Origin of Species—gets coverage but no critical commentary."

I think someone needed to say something to Dan Gilgoff.




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