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In my convention talk, this statement got by far the strongest response. "Homophobia, for many people, is rooted in guilt and anxiety about their own MASTURBATORY behavior and in the shame they feel about their own bodies." (from Sex and God, p. 204) It is among the strongest challenges to religionists. Try using it on someone and see how they respond. Even if they vehemently disagree, there is no doubt that they will think about it the next time they masturbate. It is the most intimate thing you can do with yourself, the one thing religionists are most afraid of and cannot openly deal with. As a result, they externalize it by demonizing those who aren't ashamed of their sexuality. Have great sex with yourself.
Put this up on Facebook and Twitter (in a shorter version) and I thought it was appropriate for this group as well...
Please allow me to rant and vent here a little bit:
I'm sure everyone knows what tomorrow is, right? Single Awareness Day.
I know, I know, everyone thinks it's Valentine's Day. But for those who don't have anyone in their life (or has NEVER had anyone in their life, such as yours truly), it's one of the most painful days of the year.
Hallmark holiday and all that, yeah, but when you see all the feature stories in the news, couples having a great time and even bachlorette parties on the Landing the Loop or Soulard, it makes me feel totally inadequate, rejected and alone, especially here in St. Louis. It totally sucks being alone.
OK, rant over. Thank you for letting me vent.
lol it's all good.
oops, sorry about that, really, that was evilgenius20, the guy who posted the video. I'll delete that.
I don't think anyone here is on the same page...
Brandon, coming from you that's quite the statement...
This ridicule concept isn't bound to do any good. even if someone "changes camps" so-to-speak, they're not even doing it for themselves. They've essentially gone from being a Christian Sheep to an Atheist Sheep. The very problem most religious types have with atheists is that we tend to be insulting, arrogant pricks. Since when does being a dick make things better than being friendly? You attack people just to change their minds on something without actually discussing it with them? Plugging your ears and humming loudly is still the same thing regardless of your beliefs.
well..... no, I didn't misunderstand.... :)
So when you meet a really sexist/religious/racist person anywhere in real life or online (not pointing fingers here) you never belittle? I'll say I sometimes do.....
There was an ongoing debate recently on several venues, on which is more effective at making believers see their lunacy... nice gentle accomodationism, or harder bitter laughter and ridicule. Some people changed camps, some didn't, the larger question will never be resolved. Ridiculing (pretty darned close to belittling) religious people publicly can sometimes be effective at helping religious people see the ridicule of their beliefs. The belittling of a religious person by an atheist is a weak stance? no... it's just how different individuals chose to cope with imbecility.
I really truly think that a singles group within an atheist group should be sexism free, that's a battle I find worthwhile.
I think this is a problem most atheists have (myself included). We tend to be over-analytical and dismissive (word of the day I guess). It comes through in our communication and we end up offending people that we never intended to with our cold logic.
Lee, I agree on the first half but not the second. I don't waste time 'educating' flat earthers, or believers, or racists, or sexists, or any other group of people I disagree with. It's certainly NOT because the "stance is weak". Some people just don't care to spend the extra time, often wasted extra time, on trying to educate people. Some do. It's their prerogative and does not diminish the value of an opinion.
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