Atheists Who Don't Hate Religion or Religious People

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Atheists Who Don't Hate Religion or Religious People

This place is for folks who don't hold any animiosity toward those who believe. Members of this group seek to learn more about the world's various religions and discuss them.

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Latest Activity: Feb 8, 2015

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Book by an open minded humanist

Started by UUMom Feb 8, 2015. 0 Replies

My friend, who's an open minded humanist, just wrote his autobiography, …Continue

Tags: black, author, humanist, book

Religion, attitudes and solutions to promote free thinking for all...

Started by Alice. Last reply by Alice Jan 10, 2012. 15 Replies

I don't hate religion - I see it as a fully caused natural state for many fellow humans...I am curious as to how we can as a group develop an approach to religion that is useful in promoting rational…Continue

Been looking to meet atheists of a similar bent for awhile

Started by atypican. Last reply by Steph S. Jan 6, 2012. 2 Replies

I started a religious debate group awhile back using Google Groups. It's called "A Civil Religious Debate"…Continue

Evolutionary Religious Studies

Started by atypican. Last reply by Steph S. Jan 3, 2012. 2 Replies

Here's a link that may be of some interest to those (few it seems) who understand religion as something that can be changed but not eliminated: …Continue

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Comment by Colin O'flanagan Leahy on July 8, 2012 at 7:18am

My comment disapeared. could someone have eliminated it. must have been supernatural intervention. Too profound I suppose.

Comment by Natalie A Sera on March 15, 2012 at 2:19pm

Hi Steph! You can tell I haven't been on here for a while, but yeah, you're MY kind of person. Hate hurts the hater as well as the hated, and while I do think it is important to oppose people who are trying to hurt others for religious reasons (or any others), it's not worth my emotional SELF to waste my time and energy hating people who are doing their best to live good lives and get along honestly and cordially with others.

Comment by Donny on December 28, 2011 at 9:42am

I had to deal with chronic back pain, due to work injuries for years. I ended up going for the surgery. They cut part of the disc away and chipped my L4/L5 area of bone to free up the nerve. This worked for me, I know it seems rather drastic but I couldn't walk upright and had a hard time breathing due to muscle spasms. The electric (thims?) shock pads did help after the surgery. this all happen around 1990 I am relatively pain free at this point. I still watch how I pick things up.

Hey, I’m not a hater either. I don’t have a confrontational nature and really don’t care enough to argue with religious people, unless pressed. At that point I find it better to debate from a calm perspective.

Comment by Carl on December 28, 2011 at 3:46am

Welcome Steph. We are a quiet bunch, but I guess that's the point.

I've noticed you around in some other discussion groups and have found your comments refreshing.

Comment by Sabio Lantz on May 7, 2011 at 6:28am
@Natalie
Research shows that chiropractic tx can help ameliorate back pain but no better than ibuprofen. But it can help a little. However, I agree that it, like acupuncture, does not work for the reasons offered by those methods.
Similarly, prayer can be comforting, but not because a god is listening.
I lived in Japan for 7 years and am a Japanese acupuncturist. I have as many stories of "working" as "not working". But I am sure if it works at all, it is not for the reasons given by acupuncturists ! :-)
Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on May 7, 2011 at 6:16am
I guess they'll just have to stick with tinge units, heat pads and anti inflammitories.  A bad back is a real curse.  I have a friend who broke her back as a teenager and she swears by her inversion table.
Comment by Natalie A Sera on May 7, 2011 at 6:13am
I am skeptical of acupuncture for 2 reasons: 1) there is no plausible mechanism by which it could possibly work, and 2) I was kindly given free acupuncture treatments for my asthma by my boss' wife, a certified acupuncturist, when I lived in Japan, and found absolutely no benefit from them.
Comment by Sabio Lantz on May 7, 2011 at 5:50am
@ Grace
Each treatment modality has its own limitations. Homeopathy, except for the placebo effect (which is huge), is useless. Acupuncture can help a little, but again, largely placebo -- and it is expensive and they keep you going. Sorry, not too hopeful, eh?
Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on May 7, 2011 at 5:43am
Just out of curiosity, how good is acupuncture or other alternative methods at managing chronic pain?  I have some family members with chronic pain who do not like to rely on pain meds.
Comment by Sabio Lantz on May 7, 2011 at 4:41am
@ Fred Werther:
Actually, I am very critical of Alternative medicine -- and since I am a former Acupuncturist and Homeopath, I know from whence I speak. But you are right I do see meditation techniques as very useful and science experiments have bore this out. However, meditative religious traditions are indeed as full of self-delusions as the rest.
Nuance & Complexity -- it is easy to make simple judgements, but they are rarely correct.
 

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