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Atheists who love Science!

A group for science enthusiasts of all types -- professionals, amateurs, students, anybody who loves science.

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Whether you're a professional, a student, an amateur, an enthusiast, whatever! Lots of atheists love science. Might as well have a group for it!

Feel free to nerd out, link articles, talk about your favorite field of research, whatever!

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9/28/2008
I've been super busy with school this semester -- no time for Atheist Nexus, sadly!!
If anyone who's around here a lot wants me to toss them moderation privileges to run this group or anything, just send me (Sara) a message! Thanks!

11/14/2009
Removed ability to send mass messages to everyone in the group. At 1000+ members, that seems like asking for spam.

Offer still open if anyone active in the group wants moderation privileges, but it appears everything has been going smoothly with all kinds of great discussions without moderation. Fantastic! :)

Discussion Forum

Acoustic Prism

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 13. 1 Reply

Hyperkeystone Species

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 21. 1 Reply

Diagnostic test for ALL viruses

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Alexandra Rodriguez Jun 20. 6 Replies

Atheism isn’t enough, and it isn’t very satisfying

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alexandra Rodriguez Jun 20. 8 Replies

Primate Evolution

Started by Qiana-Maieev. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Jun 19. 3 Replies

Stem Cells Treat Stroke

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Jun 2. 1 Reply

Our Limbs May Have Evolved From Sharks Gills?

Started by Qiana-Maieev. Last reply by Sean Murphy Apr 22. 1 Reply

CRISPR soon to cure diseases

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 21. 1 Reply

Magnetic Field Powered By Moon

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 31. 0 Replies

"Science Isn't Broken"

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jan 30. 11 Replies

Slime Trivia

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 18. 0 Replies

Rock Cycle Illustrated by Phil Stoffer (2005)

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 11, 2015. 2 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 20, 2012 at 3:19pm

And, let us be aware that public money spent on bringing oil shales across the US has a consequence, many consequences. 
1. Risk of contaminated aquifers that are fossil aquifers and will not be replenished until the end of the next ice age, if the Earth survives that long.
2. Increase of dirty substances from burning dirty oil shales and increasing the greenhouse effect.
3. Delaying the development of petroleum alternatives with sustainable, renewable energy sources.
4 ...need I go on? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 20, 2012 at 3:10pm

Investment in education can result in better technology, processes, understanding of how things work, and on and on. 
I visited a Mormon community i central Mexico where their population sent their kids away to universities all over the world. Those students returned home to improve their agriculture, energy technology, water management, and all other kids of ideas. They developed solar, wind and water energy, hybridized agriculture to meet the needs of high desert conditions. Their kids were using computers and connecting all over the world. I spend an afternoon with a group of kids in their science labs and was overwhelmed with their knowledge. All this came about because of education to improve their lives in a high desert surrounded by primitive cultures. I am not a Mormon, and I support their focus and investment in education.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 20, 2012 at 3:04pm

Let us be really careful here, money for research in the wrong hands will result in more weapons for killing and destroying. We need more tools for problem solving and conflict resolution. That will never happen if any of the Tea Partiers/Republicans/Randians get in. Their motive is not the best interest of the people or the planet or the poor. They believe in Rand's philosophy: 

"My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.
—Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged[2]


 

Comment by annet on March 20, 2012 at 10:54am

NASA's budget 18.69 Billion, about 0.5% of the annual government budget.

The US Spends More Money Air conditioning Military tents in Iraq then they do on NASA's Annual Budget. 

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/25/137414737/among-the-costs-of-war-20b-...

Comment by Thomas Ledbetter on March 20, 2012 at 10:27am

I'm a child of the 70's and a big NASA fan, but the issue of what to do with it has vexed me for two decades now.  There is some obvious use;  orbital Earth studies, telescopes, etc ... but I just really don't see the value of the ISS.  Let's face it, the return on the 
$ just isn't what it used to be.  What we NEED to be doing now is bio-tech and nano-tech research.  Space is SO 1970s.  If the U.S. is to maintain our technological lead, it won't be by "doing space".  What we need to focus on is:  what research will give us the greatest gains for Humanity?  That is where we need to be. 

Comment by tom sarbeck on March 20, 2012 at 3:41am

Steven, your "Money spent on repairing a road or subway is not wasted money" muddies the waters.

Very different people, NASA workers and road builders, are directly employed. When those direct employees spend their money they create indirect employment. When those indirect employees spend their money they create further indirect employment, et cetera. So in one sense the money is not wasted.

However, people who build roads can rightly say some of their taxes are wasted. When, for instance, NASA studies colonizing Mars, the money that pays for travel to/from Mars and for the stuff that NASA leaves on Mars does not benefit taxpayers.

All of the money spent building roads benefits people here on earth.

The results of economic analysis are not easily summarized in short sound bytes.

Comment by Julie Carter on March 19, 2012 at 10:31pm

Steven, you're absolutely right. It's not a zero sum game, but it's hard to remember that and think of it the right way, even for me, and I know that! :)

Comment by Steven Gibson on March 19, 2012 at 10:08pm

I think there is a misconception about how the economics of government spending works. Money spent on public projects are not wasted monies that mean it is taken from a zero sum pool. Money spent on repairing a road or subway is not wasted money. People are employed and infrastructure is created or repaired. We can choose to spend government money as long as we understand how we are creating value and exchange. In the same way money spent on NASA does not mean we can not do other research or services. When WWII began for the US, government expenditures expanded exponentially, but we were able to do it because we had the political will. The theories of economics need to be updated to account for how government expenditure works.

Comment by Julie Carter on March 19, 2012 at 9:52pm

NASA does a lot for the advancement of science, beyond just space exploration. They have developed new materials, new technology, and scientists around the world have learned a lot about the world, climate, geography, space, physics, etc. We'd miss out on a lot of things without NASA.

That said, I'm not like a huge backer of NASA, though I'm not against it either. But Tyson is completely right. The money to fund NASA is here, it's just being spent on other things that our legislators have decided are more important. Some of them are, a lot of them are not. But it's all because of lobbyists and big money corporations. Almost all of our federal legislators are corrupt, as far as I'm concerned. They pass bills and vote for things that are in their personal best interest, most of the time. They don't do what is best for their constituents or the nation, and they certainly don't listen to what their constituents WANT. They go with the money. Almost every time.

Comment by TNT666 on March 19, 2012 at 9:38pm

The same monies could accomplish much more if they were directed at that goal, instead of that information being a 'sur-catch' of our space exploration.

 

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