Atheists who love Science!


Atheists who love Science!

A group for science enthusiasts of all types -- professionals, amateurs, students, anybody who loves science.

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Whether you're a professional, a student, an amateur, an enthusiast, whatever! Lots of atheists love science. Might as well have a group for it!

Feel free to nerd out, link articles, talk about your favorite field of research, whatever!

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Discussion Forum

time viewing

Started by jlaz. Last reply by Michael Penn 4 hours ago. 13 Replies

Corrupt Science

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 11. 8 Replies

Michelle Thaller on Science Denial

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Andrew Mar 18. 12 Replies

Data Analytics and the Disintegration of Public Knowledge

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 19. 4 Replies

Peas learn by association

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Sean Murphy Jan 18. 1 Reply

Hyperkeystone Species

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Sean Murphy Jan 18. 2 Replies


Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 10, 2016. 1 Reply

Planetary Context of the Anthropocene

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Chris Oct 2, 2016. 1 Reply

3-D Printed Bone Repair

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 28, 2016. 0 Replies

Cold Vaccine Progress

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 28, 2016. 0 Replies

Publish-Or-Perish Guarantees Flawed Research

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 22, 2016. 1 Reply

Earth like planet may be only 4.25 light-years away.

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 26, 2016. 8 Replies

Acoustic Prism

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 13, 2016. 1 Reply

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Comment by Chris on September 3, 2012 at 10:31am

Another thing wrong with experts is they are often paid to present political propaganda. The Koch brothers supply many of these who dispute climate change, present false evidence of failing school, that Social Security is bankrupt and the only way to save it is to raise the retirement age, or that medicare is unsustainable. The do this with the agenda of privatizing schools, ending regulation, and reducing taxes.

Comment by tom sarbeck on September 3, 2012 at 3:48am

Spud, You might enjoy "Godel's Proof", a small book by the German mathematician Kurt Godel. He did for mathematicians what Heisenberg did for physicists: made them uncertain.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 2, 2012 at 3:30pm

Thanks TNT666 and Chris G.  Love that video.

It points-out my thoughts on snooty “Wine experts”, “Art experts”, “Health experts”, “Business experts”, “Management experts”, “Financial experts”, “Relationship experts”, Happiness experts”,  and “Toenail-clipping experts”.  That is, they’re usually wrong.  In other words, they’re full of male Bovine excrement!

Many years ago, I decided that most “experts” were not to be trusted.  Mostly because they were contradicted by other “experts”.

According to this video, the people that study predictions say the more certain someone is of their answers, the more often they’re wrong.  The person that is not confident of their answers are more likely to be right.

One “expert” teaching others how to become an “expert” advises them to use Buzzwords instead of plain language.  Buzzwords are things I’ve hated since I first started hearing them.  

The first one I can remember hating was “action-item”.  I asked my boss what that meant.  He said it means “assignment”.  I said why confuse people by making-up a new word or words that mean the same thing as an old word that everyone understands?  He had no reasonable reply.

One person said “essentially, chaos is very difficult to live with”.  That I can agree with.  I want to know how things really work.  I want to know the truth.  I love the truth.  I hate it that I can never be sure of what is true.

Well…..there are some things that have been proven to be true by science, at least proven beyond any reasonable doubt.  But there are so many things in life that I can’t say that about.  It becomes very distressing at times.  

Nevertheless, I refuse to have belief or faith in anyone’s “facts”, hypothesis, or philosophy, unless it’s been published in a peer-reviewed journal, and most scientists are convinced it’s true.  But, when that happens, I accept it as true.  I still do not have “faith” or “belief”.

And if someone says “trust me”, I’m going to run the other way as fast as my wobbly legs will go!

Comment by Chris on September 2, 2012 at 3:05am

say's it's only available in Canada, but it's on youtube

Comment by TNT666 on August 31, 2012 at 9:52pm

In the name of the "love of science" turn on CBC Television right now and watch a very good analysis of the "expert myth"

... experts in economy and management, WHICH ARE NOT SCIENCES, and whose experts are NOT

... experts in nutrition (for all those who insist on posting miracle health cures here) who are NOT, and nutritionists who have meaningless diplomas.

Characteristics that qualify people to be "experts": Height and the watch they're wearing!

An excellent investigative piece, with Ben Goldacre, a wine-maker-expert-debunker, and various other critics and debunkers.

Full episode available on this site for Canadians, for others, I don't know: The Trouble with Experts

One of the show's best lines: Experts are the new priests/shamans... and they lie just as much!

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 30, 2012 at 1:49pm

That seems to be the way the Science news cycle works.  I'd laugh if I weren't crying.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 29, 2012 at 10:47pm

Comment by tom sarbeck on August 28, 2012 at 6:25pm

There are some very nice people who want children but who have genetic conditions that result in their children not surviving even to birth, let alone to adulthood.

Here, a woman gave her daughter beliefs that might result in the girl's not making it in life.

In the first case, Ma and Pa Nature do what they do. In the second case, the girl's mother did what she did. Life goes on.

Comment by Diane on August 28, 2012 at 2:23pm
I am retired from teaching. One year I got a new student in my class who had been home schooled the previous year. Her mom told me all of the things she had taught her daughter including astrology!

I found it remarkable evidence of one breathtakingly ignorant home teacher. Tammy's post dismays me so much in many ways, including the fact that the particular mom's ignorance was/is not remarkable at all.

How daunting it feels right now to arouse the public about the reality of global warming if they start from this kind of knowledge base as big $$$$ propaganda swirls around them reassuring them it is nothing to worry about and no action is needed. Arrrrgh
Comment by Tammy S on August 28, 2012 at 12:39pm

Just too disturbing not to share... Reposted from *Diaspora


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