Atheists who love Science!


Atheists who love Science!

A group for science enthusiasts of all types -- professionals, amateurs, students, anybody who loves science.

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Whether you're a professional, a student, an amateur, an enthusiast, whatever! Lots of atheists love science. Might as well have a group for it!

Feel free to nerd out, link articles, talk about your favorite field of research, whatever!

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Discussion Forum

time viewing

Started by jlaz. Last reply by jlaz May 13. 20 Replies

Corrupt Science

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 11. 8 Replies

Michelle Thaller on Science Denial

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Andrew Mar 18. 12 Replies

Data Analytics and the Disintegration of Public Knowledge

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 19. 4 Replies

Peas learn by association

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Sean Murphy Jan 18. 1 Reply

Hyperkeystone Species

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Sean Murphy Jan 18. 2 Replies


Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 10, 2016. 1 Reply

Planetary Context of the Anthropocene

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Chris Oct 2, 2016. 1 Reply

3-D Printed Bone Repair

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 28, 2016. 0 Replies

Cold Vaccine Progress

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 28, 2016. 0 Replies

Publish-Or-Perish Guarantees Flawed Research

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 22, 2016. 1 Reply

Earth like planet may be only 4.25 light-years away.

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 26, 2016. 8 Replies

Acoustic Prism

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 13, 2016. 1 Reply

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Comment by Grinning Cat on September 3, 2012 at 2:17pm

Apropos, from Austin Cline's series of satirical posters representing Religious Right beliefs:








Comment by Diane on September 3, 2012 at 1:49pm
More highlights from the Texas Republican party's education platform:

"We support school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded and which form the basis of America’s legal, political and economic systems."

"We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills" ...[which have] have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

"We support objective teaching and equal treatment of all sides of scientific theories. We believe theories such as life origins and environmental change should be taught as challengeable scientific theories subject to change as new data is produced. Teachers and students should be able to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly and without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind."

"Religious Freedom in Public Schools – We urge school administrators and officials to inform Texas school students specifically of their First Amendment rights to pray and engage in religious speech, individually or in groups, on school property without government interference. "

"Classroom deal with disciplinary problems. Corporal punishment is effective..."

We support "child-centered school funding options which fund the student, not schools or districts, to allow maximum freedom of choice in public, private, or PAROCHIAL education for all children."
Comment by Diane on September 3, 2012 at 1:23pm
Thanks, Grinning Cat. I read the whole Texas Republican's education platform. Stunning. As Stephen Colbert said, it calls for repeal of the Enlightenment. (Direct link below)

The best thing about it is that lets the cat out of the bag, by putting the specific, detailed "education" agenda of the right wing in plain sight. I think this is representative of the plan other right wing extremists have for national education policy.
Comment by Grinning Cat on September 3, 2012 at 11:54am

... false evidence of failing school ... with the agenda of privatizing schools ...

A tangent, but relevant to "neocon / religious right agendas":

This summer the Republican Party of Texas opposed the teaching of critical thinking skills in their party platform because they "have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

There's much more scary stuff at a Washington Post article, including the full education section of their platform.

(A left-wing conspiracy theorist could postulate that the Koch brothers et al. want a two-tiered educational system designed to leave the 99.9% unthinking and submissive!)

Comment by Chris on September 3, 2012 at 10:31am

Another thing wrong with experts is they are often paid to present political propaganda. The Koch brothers supply many of these who dispute climate change, present false evidence of failing school, that Social Security is bankrupt and the only way to save it is to raise the retirement age, or that medicare is unsustainable. The do this with the agenda of privatizing schools, ending regulation, and reducing taxes.

Comment by tom sarbeck on September 3, 2012 at 3:48am

Spud, You might enjoy "Godel's Proof", a small book by the German mathematician Kurt Godel. He did for mathematicians what Heisenberg did for physicists: made them uncertain.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 2, 2012 at 3:30pm

Thanks TNT666 and Chris G.  Love that video.

It points-out my thoughts on snooty “Wine experts”, “Art experts”, “Health experts”, “Business experts”, “Management experts”, “Financial experts”, “Relationship experts”, Happiness experts”,  and “Toenail-clipping experts”.  That is, they’re usually wrong.  In other words, they’re full of male Bovine excrement!

Many years ago, I decided that most “experts” were not to be trusted.  Mostly because they were contradicted by other “experts”.

According to this video, the people that study predictions say the more certain someone is of their answers, the more often they’re wrong.  The person that is not confident of their answers are more likely to be right.

One “expert” teaching others how to become an “expert” advises them to use Buzzwords instead of plain language.  Buzzwords are things I’ve hated since I first started hearing them.  

The first one I can remember hating was “action-item”.  I asked my boss what that meant.  He said it means “assignment”.  I said why confuse people by making-up a new word or words that mean the same thing as an old word that everyone understands?  He had no reasonable reply.

One person said “essentially, chaos is very difficult to live with”.  That I can agree with.  I want to know how things really work.  I want to know the truth.  I love the truth.  I hate it that I can never be sure of what is true.

Well…..there are some things that have been proven to be true by science, at least proven beyond any reasonable doubt.  But there are so many things in life that I can’t say that about.  It becomes very distressing at times.  

Nevertheless, I refuse to have belief or faith in anyone’s “facts”, hypothesis, or philosophy, unless it’s been published in a peer-reviewed journal, and most scientists are convinced it’s true.  But, when that happens, I accept it as true.  I still do not have “faith” or “belief”.

And if someone says “trust me”, I’m going to run the other way as fast as my wobbly legs will go!

Comment by Chris on September 2, 2012 at 3:05am

say's it's only available in Canada, but it's on youtube

Comment by TNT666 on August 31, 2012 at 9:52pm

In the name of the "love of science" turn on CBC Television right now and watch a very good analysis of the "expert myth"

... experts in economy and management, WHICH ARE NOT SCIENCES, and whose experts are NOT

... experts in nutrition (for all those who insist on posting miracle health cures here) who are NOT, and nutritionists who have meaningless diplomas.

Characteristics that qualify people to be "experts": Height and the watch they're wearing!

An excellent investigative piece, with Ben Goldacre, a wine-maker-expert-debunker, and various other critics and debunkers.

Full episode available on this site for Canadians, for others, I don't know: The Trouble with Experts

One of the show's best lines: Experts are the new priests/shamans... and they lie just as much!

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 30, 2012 at 1:49pm

That seems to be the way the Science news cycle works.  I'd laugh if I weren't crying.


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