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Started by Don. Last reply by Stephen Goldin Aug 22, 2014. 3 Replies

Upcoming New Book putting God on Trial

Started by Ravi Morey. Last reply by tom sarbeck Jun 19, 2013. 1 Reply

I've Just Published a New Book, the "Freethought Resource Guide"

Started by Mark Vandebrake. Last reply by Michael B. Paulk May 26, 2013. 1 Reply

Is anyone working on anything?

Started by Joe Fausnight. Last reply by Milan Elesin Jan 31, 2013. 47 Replies

Is it too over the top?

Started by Ted E Bear. Last reply by Alan Michael Wilt Jan 21, 2013. 2 Replies

writing from musical flow

Started by michele ricketts. Last reply by Craig A. James Sep 22, 2012. 1 Reply

Book review blogs?

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Christopher Hitchens' last words

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Comment by Joe C on March 22, 2015 at 7:30pm

In this day and age, consider self-publishing. Create Space is a "print on demand" partner for Amazon. Book Baby is an aggregator that can get your book on iTunes, B & N, Kobo, Amazon, etc. 

If you go this route you need to hire your own editor and designer for cover/layout (and if you wish, a publicist). You can be your own publisher or appoint Create Space as the publisher and they'll get you a bar-code etc. You set the price, they pay you a royalty.

I looked at some of the Vanity Press options but this route has no upfront costs other that help I hired myself. I wrote a 2013 book, 420 pgs, $18.89 in paperback and $9.99 as an eBook and Amazon pays me $5.50 if people buy it off the Amazon site and $1.20 if they buy it through their bookstore. If I sell it, I order it from them, they charge $6.00 to print it + shipping and buyers can pay by paypal (or I have a Visa/Master Card account). I sell about 200 a month (3,300 total so far) and that's about as well as I expected to do.

It's a secular daily reflection for the mostly religious Twelve Step community. Atheists love it, theist don't seem to mind it either. It's not offensive by design, it is just unabashedly prayer and faith-free.

So, consider POD (Print of Demand) if you don't think you'll mind doing a little marketing homework. If you're established in social media that will help, too.

Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life 

I considered printing a couple thousand which would have brought my cost per book in 1/2 but then I'd have to store them and Amazon gets better shipping rates than I can so I think my overall costs (and certainly risk) is way lower.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on March 22, 2015 at 12:17pm

i'm sorry.  I should have given the company's name that published my book.  It was Xlibris.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on March 22, 2015 at 12:15pm

I went to the "vanity press".  I had to pay to get mine published, but then I'm not the best writer in the world.  My book "It's Time For A Talk" is only 58 pages long, and it cost me $600.  I thought it was worth it because I'm trying to get religion out of the Republican party.  I sent a soft-cover edition to each of the leading contenders in the party as of right now, and the Republican national headquarters.

Comment by Michael B. Paulk on February 12, 2015 at 2:30pm

American Atheist Press of course! 

Comment by Joe C on December 27, 2014 at 1:00pm

Just heard about this place, Carol; not a recommendation, but worth checking out:


Joe C

Comment by Annie Thomas on December 27, 2014 at 9:03am

Congrats, Carol, on completing your book! I would recommend you go to your local library and peruse through the 2015 Writer's Market by Robert Lee Brewer. This is updated each year and a great resource for writers. Good luck!

Comment by James M. Martin on December 27, 2014 at 8:30am

I am working on a play; have been for ten or so years now, having finished the research only about a year back. The theme was stated best by Auden, that artists put their best in their work, their lives being the residue. It is a three act "comedy of letters" dealing with a year in the lives of a famous poet and equally famous novelist, man and woman respectively, who suffer personality disintegration while living in a suburb of Mexico the early 30s. In Act Two, I introduce a younger archeologist living with the poet, who is gay. I've made him an atheist and in some ways he is the voice of the playwright. But there is a danger in portraying a character as a vocal non-believer. When ideology is introduced in a work of fiction, the results can be disastrous. Take "Reds," the John Reed bio filmed by Warren Beatty as an example of a good ideological film. The Marxism is subtle, used mainly to advance plot, not "in your face," although Emma Goldman appears, and some of the characters mouth Marxist theory. That is the challenge to one writing about atheism. Best do it humorously, I say. That is what I am trying to accomplish.

Comment by tom sarbeck on December 26, 2014 at 10:57pm

Carol, if I were to see that title on a store's Humor shelves, I would look at it.

If you know MSWord well enough to do a TOC, chaptering, foot notes/end notes and such, consider epublishing. Authors' cuts at Amazon were and maybe still are much better than print.

Comment by tom sarbeck on March 12, 2013 at 5:09am

I've had non-fiction published: user manuals for a computer manufacturer, environment-related essays, and articles on parliamentary law. For the user manuals I found that "hopping" back to my neophyte years helped me in this genre with a horrid reputation. Now retired, I do short essays, a couple of which have appeared on op-ed pages, and personal memoirs. In memoirs, one of them Evolving to Atheism, I found that hopping back to the relevant years and writing in present tense enlivened me and my writing.

Have others hopped (done time travel) for non-fiction? If so, has it worked?

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 9, 2013 at 3:33pm
If I am opposed to torture by my country and I discover my country tortures, it is my obligation to stand against my country and the silence that permeates the whole scene.
If a religion sanctions fear-mongering, remains silent in the face of slavery, homophobia, it is my responsibility to speak out myself, and also challenge religious people to stand up for what they believe. Don't hide behind the cloak of the church to be complicit in the act.

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