Dr. Darrel Ray makes his second appearance on Chariots of Iron, almost a full year after our "Inoculating Against the God Virus" episode. This time around, Darrel discusses his work doing leadership conferences, his Recovering Religionists organization and everyone's favorite fellating, tweaker evangelist Ted Haggard.

Before the interview: Jew on Jew ethnic prejudice, a minor digression on claims of antisemitism, Mark Souder blames extramarital affair on inefficacy of prayer, radiocarbon dating proved effective yet again and the reasons atheists should celebrate holidays regardless of their religious roots.

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