Chariots of Iron


Chariots of Iron

"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19

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The future of the Chariots of Iron

Started by Lamar. Last reply by matt warren Nov 6, 2012. 8 Replies

No Wikipedia Page?!

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Comment by Joseph P on September 7, 2011 at 1:14am
Comment by Eli on September 6, 2011 at 10:32pm
New show is out, we explain the absence, and ramble aimlessly, plus.. guests!
Comment by Chris Crenshaw on September 2, 2011 at 3:54pm
Where have the podcasts been? or maybe you said something in your last one?  Idk wahhhhh.
Comment by matt warren on August 18, 2011 at 7:39pm
ahhhh....puffins,.....almost penguins.
Comment by matt warren on August 18, 2011 at 7:37pm

in a way, I think so. because when your using EST your kind of inducing a siezure of the brain. An electical storm in the brain that leaves temporary damage. like being dazed after getting hit in the face. a part of your brain is stunned for a while.

a lobotomy is like permanently effecting that part of the brain that is causing the problems. temporal lobe I think in both cases.

so in that way ...yes I would say that they are similar.

like when someone is freaking out, you might skake or slap them to shock the nervous system into pausing a second ......and then things start making sense again.

I am a rescue scuba diver and I have seen and have had to do this a couple times.

And in most drastic and barbaric solution to a really bad chronic prob we have a medically permanent alteration called (eeyuk)  lobotomy.


not that I have preformed lobotomies in the water...but you get my point.


Comment by Lawrence Anders on August 6, 2011 at 2:05pm

All I can say is "oh hell no"!!! Tyson's too busy tap dancing on egg shells so as not to offend the religious whack jobs. He is not half the emissary for the wonder and beauty of the natural world that Carl Sagan was. Carl Sagan was a source of unapologetic passion for our amazing universe who sparked the imagination of a generation. Tyson, well, I remember the Q&A you guys played where he pranced around the question of weather or not he is an atheist before basically saying he didn't believe in a god, but isn't an atheist because atheists are dicks.
Comment by matt warren on July 14, 2011 at 10:53am

I came off of wellbutrin not too long ago and the mood swings are back. but what I learned while on the meds have come in handy.

I still hate the deeps and the highs but I have learned to deal with them through the drug.

ya...I find myself screaming at the tv once in a while but who dosnt?

if it realy comes down to it there is nothing wrong with treatment as long as it is science and evidence based and not some kind of electro shock/temp lobotomy.

thats what eletro is...a temp lobotomy.

Comment by Joseph P on July 6, 2011 at 12:18pm
Umm, hell no.
Comment by Joseph P on July 6, 2011 at 9:46am

Yeah, I know just what you mean, about the other times and places.  At least your parents dumped you off in a first-world country, huh?  We had a story in Atheist News, several months back, about a boy who is 'possessed by jinns' and spends all of his time handcuffed in some basement, in a catatonic stupor.

It's in Iran or Saudi Arabia, or one of those sorts of countries.  They don't exactly have a 20th Century view of mental illness.  It should be about damned time they caught up with the 20th Century, now that we're no longer in it.


Right there with you, on the medication.  I stopped taking the stuff when I was 17 ... and informed my parents that I had stopped taking it, a few months later.  I'm not a non-functional obsessive-compulsive, and I'll never be suicidal ... so I'd rather just deal with the bipolar disorder, as well.  The brain slowdown isn't worth it, for me, because the wild spinning is where all of the inspiration comes from.

It's all case-by-case.  Yours is more crippling, so a bit of regulation is in order.

Comment by Joseph P on July 5, 2011 at 9:05pm

Yeah, Christ.  I'm psychotic, too, but one (well, technically two, according to the shrink I went to, back in my teens) of the more stable, less self-destructive sorts.  Most obsessive-compulsives and manic-depressives can get along without medication, as long as they can compensate a little, when they hit a bad point in the swing.  My personal relationships suffer a little, at those times, but I handle my professional life just fine.


Neither of those have anything on schizophrenia.

I can just imagine how I'd react, when encountering my parents again, like you mentioned at the end of your message.  They dumped you in another country, to be homeless, until an atheist woman found you and helped treat your issues?  And they knew God would cure you?

I think the word 'ballistic' would factor in heavily, to the way I would handle it.


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