Chariots of Iron


Chariots of Iron

"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19

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The future of the Chariots of Iron

Started by Lamar. Last reply by matt warren Nov 6, 2012. 8 Replies

No Wikipedia Page?!

Started by Andrew Lindsey. Last reply by Eli Feb 7, 2011. 4 Replies

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Comment by Eli on November 16, 2009 at 11:59am
to adress a earlier comment, on our "timely release" of shows, please be aware that all of us on Chariots (I can't speak for Atheist News) do this in our spare time and when that spare time is infringed upon (by children, work, spouses, the release of highly anticipated PC games, and the like) it can impact when the show is released.

That said we're tying to pull things back on schedule, and thank our valued listening audience for their patience.
Comment by Rick on November 16, 2009 at 10:13am
Alabama same sex bigotry strikes again. Republican Rep. DuWayne Bridges has drafted a bill to deny funding to public colleges if they offer employee benefits to same-sex couples. What a jerk!
Comment by Talen Lee on November 16, 2009 at 1:26am
Wait, this comment page has a podcast? Man, that'd be awesome. You could like, open it with the quote from Judges and everything! And Eli could do a voice that we could call 'Lamarr' to fill out the casting!
Comment by Brian on November 15, 2009 at 11:38pm
So, are you jackasses going to start putting your podcasts out in a timely manner any time soon? I'm talking about both AN and CoI.
Comment by Sandy on November 8, 2009 at 11:41am
Comment by Fox Lee on November 7, 2009 at 7:49pm
Quoth Talen: First, it's legitimizing it.

Which, let's all remember, leads to batshit crazy parents deciding their children don't need real medical treatment because goshdurnit, homeopathy is what cured me. That's the real sting of "why the hell not". Of course everybody has the right to choose their own "care", quackery or not - but when those people choose for others, who have no way to understand or influence that choice - it no longer "does little harm".
Comment by Talen Lee on November 7, 2009 at 4:40pm
"People are going to believe in it, no matter what."

If you choose to use an argument of inevitability, why bother with anything at all? The worst elements of humanity are going to cling to things in a whole host of ways, which is why we have Gor fiction and flat earthers.
Comment by Talen Lee on November 6, 2009 at 10:19pm
My argument for 'Why The Hell Not' is three fold.

First, it's legitimizing it. If you do get better after trying unuseful medications, this will be used by people who want to peddle them to less scrupulous people.

Second, it's never cheap. For what you're getting, you pay a LOT, and that money is going to someone who basically gets their money being either willing liars or implicit supporters of liars.

Third, it takes time. If everything else has failed, if you've literally got no other options, and you're looking for a placebo, spray your shoes with Pam every week, and just enjoy the time you have. Time spent scrabbling against the inevitable can waste what little time you have left with people you love,

I've seen at least one father whose children have no lasting memory of his last days because he was travelling around, chasing neo life quackery, when he could have been spending it pulling them out of school and taking picnics and playing games with them.
Comment by Stewart Thurston on November 6, 2009 at 12:23pm
I just listened to an interview on the SGU with Simon Singh. He described having a homeopath tell him that he could give him a prophylactic treatment for malaria! The placebo effect wouldn't get you very far in the face of a bulk load malarial parasites owing your ass.
Comment by Eli on November 6, 2009 at 12:06pm
I wouldn't credit homeopothy with the benefits of the placebo effect, they could have danced around afire for five minutes and if they believed it helped them it would, that's not a help from homeopathy specifically, also the "harm" doesn't come from homeopathy itself the treatments aren't poisoning folks the harm is from "not taking actual medicine", let's seperate the treatment from the cause a bit.

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