We have been through these before (in Multiply), but am representing for the benefit of those who have not seen them, nor read their bibles with understanding of how ridiculous the texts really are.

Solomon’s Sacrifices

1 Kings 8:63 "And Solomon offered a sacrifice of peace offerings, which he offered unto the Lord, two and twenty thousand oxen, and an hundred and twenty thousand sheep." (KJV).

1 Kings 8:5 "And King Solomon and all the congregation of Israel, that were assembled unto him, were with him before the Ark, sacrificing sheep and oxen, that could not be told nor numbered for multitude." (KJV) Note: The Good News Bible begins this verse with "King Solomon and all the people of Israel…"

I wonder if the scribe who wrote this had any idea how much ground would be covered by 142,000 oxen and sheep. They certainly couldn’t ever have been contained in the temple courtyard, nor could this number have been sacrificed in the one day. By today’s standards they would need hundreds of trucks just to take away the bones. The fat running off would fill a few swimming pools.

One Million Ethiopians

Chronicles-2 14:8 And Asa had an army [of men] that bare targets and spears, out of Judah three hundred thousand; and out of Benjamin, that bare shields and drew bows, two hundred and fourscore thousand: all these [were] mighty men of valour.
Chronicles-2 14:9 And there came out against them Zerah the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand, and three hundred chariots; and came unto Mareshah.

Chronicles-2 14:13 And Asa and the people that [were] with him pursued them unto Gerar: and the Ethiopians were overthrown, that they could not recover themselves; for they were destroyed before the LORD, and before his host; and they carried away very much spoil.
Chronicles-2 14:14 And they smote all the cities round about Gerar; for the fear of the LORD came upon them: and they spoiled all the cities; for there was exceeding much spoil in them.

Malcolm: These verses sound quite impossible. If Judah was really the Judaea of modern Israel, then the story is complete nonsense. Just imagine it. The Bible is taking for fools yet again. Here we have an enormous army, of one million Ethiopians plus 300 chariots, forging northwards past the Cataracts of the Nile and through the whole of Egypt and the across the Sinai desert to get at the Judaeans.

What do you think the Egyptians were doing all this time? At this time, Egypt was at one of the pinnacles of power which it enjoyed throughout most of the 18th and 19th Dynasties. Would they led such an army of Nubians go freely through their land? No way, Jose. Egypt was however often attacked by their southern neighbour, and this makes much more sense. The name of the king, Asa is another giveaway. This is the God Name Uasar or Asar - (better known to us as Osiris). Asa/Asar is very much an Egyptian god - and in fact God of the netherworld. Gerar is yet one more giveaway. The ancient name for Cairo was Kherar - Gerar. It is mentioned many times and always as it seems in the Delta region, which was Israel.

A million men sounds very much of an exaggeration and I also doubt that the Egyptians mustered 580,000 soldiers. At the battle of Kadesh, the Hittites beat the Egyptians with an army of 47,000.

Exodus

12:37 And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children.
12:38 And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

So we have 600,000 men on foot, plus children and surely women though they are not thought worthy of a mention. Then there was a ‘mixed multitude’, named as ‘a large number of other people in the Good News Bible. Who were these other people? My guess is that they had to be slaves, possibly Egyptians or Philistines. In any case they were a multitude or large number, so not less than say a hundred thousand.

The total amount of human beings would therefore have been well in excess of one million. The number of sheep would have been colossal, since they would have been the main source of protein for the Hebrew population. For example just look at the number of sheep sacrificed in one day in 1 Kings 6:83 (above).

How on earth could such a mass of people and animals survive in a desert for so many years? How too is it that there is not one mention of this amazing movement in Egyptian records, when these people were renowned for keeping accounts of everything that happened? How is it that they had no idea that the Hebrew people and their flocks were on the move until the ‘Exodus’ had got a good head start? With Egyptian border posts and military posts placed at all strategic points, how could this possibly happen?

Sheep are not noted for moving at any great speed. If you have ever been stuck behind a flock in an English country lane you would know that they are never in a great hurry to go anywhere, and they stress out if they lose sight of their leader.

So we are to believe that the King set out with 600 hundred of his finest chariots – Exodus 14:7 – and didn’t catch up until the Israelites were camped beside the shores of the Red Sea. Now let us suppose that the Red Sea did part to allow the passage across to the Sinai Desert. The scribe who wrote this nonsense obviously had no idea what the sea floor is like when the tide is out. Any wheeled cart, and there must have been many, would not have been able to keep up the speed required to move one million people and possibly as many sheep and cattle safely to the other side – some 30 miles away, even in the Gulf of Suez – before the Egyptians were among them.

We are supposed to accept that something like 2 million men, women, children and animals crossed this divide in what – half an hour, one hour, two hours? Three miles an hour is a very good pace for the fittest, and on a good flat surface this would take some 10 hours.

The story of the Exodus takes the prize for being one of the most far-fetched stories in the whole of the Bible.

Biblical Ages

5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
5:6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:
5:7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
5:9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
5:10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
5:12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:
5:13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
5:16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
5:18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
5:19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.:
5:22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:.
5:25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.
5:26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
5:28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
5:29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.
5:30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
5:32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

We are even supposed to believe that Moses lived 120 years. That might be possible in the Andes, or for the Hunza people of India, but for a man who had to endure all those years in the Desert?

Noah’s Ark

7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

The Good News Bible changes this to read ‘ritually clean’. Anyway whether there were two or fourteen of every animal and every bird, no ship of a mere 500 feet in length could ever accommodate such numbers. It is such an obvious blooper, that wonders just what the scribes were getting high on.

 

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You know, it's doubtful there were that many sheep in the whole word, and if he came for my sheep I would tell him to fuck off.

  Well here we have another problem because the biblical name for Hebrews was Sheep and they called Egyptians Cattle.    This was because the Hebrews who ruled Egypt, e.g. Pharaohs Solomon and David, recognised the new age of Aries - hence the Avenue of Ram headed Sphinxes in Luxor, whilst the Egyptian old school still maintained that Iosa/Iesous/Jesus/Horus was born in the manger of Taurus the Bull.

    The verse where Joseph tells his brothers to tell the Pharaoh that they are Cattle men and don't tend Sheep was really saying 'don't let him know that you are Heprew (Origin of the name Hebrew - means 'Creations').    Several 18th/19th Dynasty kings had Heprew in their throne names as did an early King of Egypt - Khepre (singular without the 'W').

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