Classical Masters

For people who love opera, ballet, and classical music. A place to relax and enjoy the soothing sound of the masters. (Incept date, 0401.10)

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Gregorian chants

Started by LuRob. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7, 2016. 1 Reply

Do you like this style of plain chant?This is monody, no acccompaniment and no abrupt changes in the melody.Continue

Hindemith, Mathias Grunewald, the Nazis, &c.

Started by James M. Martin Jul 4, 2012. 0 Replies

When I was a bachelor at a…Continue

Virtual Choir 3.0 - Water Night

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tony Carroll Apr 2, 2012. 1 Reply

Words may not suffice here.  The average choir may be ... what?  Thirty, maybe 50 for a medium ensemble, and a large orchestra chorus might go one or two hundred.  Worthy of note, Eric Whitacre's…Continue

Tags: Water Night, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

For Christopher...

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 16, 2011. 2 Replies

I sometimes like to think I have a way with words here and there.  Today, having learned of the death of Christopher Hitchens, I find the words coming in fits and starts, but any attempt at giving…Continue

Tags: Dmitri Shostakovich, Christopher Hitchens

Is Music Dangerous?

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 10, 2011. 3 Replies

It was a few years ago when I attended a Cleveland Orchestra concert which included Dmitri Shostakovich’s Fourth Symphony.  Up to that time, I had been aware of his more popular works, such as his…Continue

Tags: Shostakovich Symphony No. 4, Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk, Stalin, Shostakovich

Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir - Lux Aurumque

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 5, 2011. 3 Replies

When is a choir not a choir ... yet still a choir?When is an ensemble not assembled, yet is assembled?Ask Eric Whitacre. Some time back, he was sent a link on YouTube of a woman, singing a single…Continue

Tags: YouTube, Lux Aurumque, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir 2.0 - *** UPDATED ***

Started by Loren Miller Apr 5, 2011. 0 Replies

On 7 April, 2011, Eric Whitacre will release his latest Virtual Choir project, with the performance of his work, "Sleep."  This project involved the participation of no less than 2,051 voices from 58…Continue

Tags: YouTube, Sleep, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

The Playlist Vault of Classical Masters on A|N

Started by Roy The Infidel. Last reply by Roy The Infidel Sep 22, 2010. 9 Replies

Archive of featured playlists on Classical Masters.Continue

Tags: masters, classical, playlist, vault

The OTHER Side of Eric Whitacre

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 10, 2010. 2 Replies

Certainly, there is "Water Night," "Sleep," and the powerful "When David Heard."  To this day I shed tears listening to some of this stuff.And then ... there's Eric's OTHER side ... the side which…Continue

Conductors, Too

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by Steve Snyder Jun 19, 2010. 16 Replies

I hope this group will welcome from time to time discussions of conductors, as in some circles they are almost the auteurs of the work, usually those who get the rosettes in the Penguin Guide.  But…Continue

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Comment by Jaume on April 12, 2010 at 9:44am
Fine. He had a right to be self-indulgent, and I have a right to feel offended by it. Can we agree to disagree? After all, Rachmaninoff himself dismissed The Rite of Spring as bad music, while I think it's a masterpiece.
Comment by Rich Goss on April 12, 2010 at 9:10am
Jaume, as Andre Watts once said, people come to have "a musical experience" with me.

Any one of the concerti is a splendid musical experience. The melody in the second is haunting; they even made a pop song of it.

I think you're being a little hard of SR, calling him self indulgent. He had a right to be self indulgent and the music that came out of it is magnificent.

Picture hearing it for the first time. The melody is a bit addled and played out through repetition, but I bet if you'd have been at the premiere, you would have flipped out like everybody else.

By "self indulgent" I guess you mean overly flowery and show offish. Please tell me, if you were SR when he arrived in the United States, you wouldn't show off? That's his job.
Comment by Jaume on April 11, 2010 at 5:30pm
On Chaliapin - I agree. Can't remember who it is who asked in 1908, "Did Chaliapin sneeze?"
Comment by Rich Goss on April 11, 2010 at 4:21pm
Jaume, as we used to say in NYC, "That's what makes horse racing."

I even dig his songs. Are you familiar with Chaliapin? Had to be the most intense basso that ever lived.
Comment by James M. Martin on April 11, 2010 at 12:53pm
You're probably right, Roy. It's been 40 years since I interviewed them.
Comment by Roy The Infidel on April 11, 2010 at 10:38am
@ James

That would be J.S. Bach's Suite No.3 in D major: Air BWV 1068, I think.
Comment by Jaume on April 11, 2010 at 4:35am
I don't doubt Rachmaninoff was a great pianist, perhaps even the greatest in his era. And I'm aware of the tragedies he had to endure. But while "someone who's seen great suffering can create great art" indeed, it doesn't follow that this has to be always true.

OK, I admit I have a weak spot for some of his orchestral and choral work. But the self-indulgence in the concertos really goes under my nerves. It's, indeed, "all a matter of feeling".
Comment by Rich Goss on April 10, 2010 at 8:47pm
As I write this comment, I'm listening to the great Rhapsody on a Theme from Paganini. What wonderful technology.

To call SR overrated, I vehemently disagree. Rachmaninoff saw more life than any of them. Beethoven was in Napoleonic conflict; Wager saw some Prussian aggression. But none of them lived through what SR witnessed in his life: two world wars, the Russian Revolution, personal heartbreak—lucky for him the great basso Chialapin helped him escape to the U.S.

At the turn of the century he was the arguably the greatest pianist in the world. Listen to some of the Youtube pieces, where SR plays Chopin he lift the listener to another realm of consciousness.

I maintain that someone who's seen great suffering can create great art.

Even if he were overrated—what difference does that make? Most of the public is into Madonna and Michael Jackson. SR brought the old schools of Moscow and Leningrad and brought bring on the new century.

Like Vincent Van Gogh said in a letter to his brother, "it's all a matter of feeling."
Comment by Jaume on April 10, 2010 at 2:14pm
Richard: Let me just say that classical music is very subjective.

Even Rachmaninoff? SUB-JEC-TIVE? Don't tell that to Objectivists ;-)
Comment by Rich Goss on April 10, 2010 at 1:41pm
Anybody into Vocalize?

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