Classical Masters

For people who love opera, ballet, and classical music. A place to relax and enjoy the soothing sound of the masters. (Incept date, 0401.10)

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Hindemith, Mathias Grunewald, the Nazis, &c.

Started by James M. Martin Jul 4, 2012. 0 Replies

When I was a bachelor at a…Continue

Virtual Choir 3.0 - Water Night

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tony Carroll Apr 2, 2012. 1 Reply

Words may not suffice here.  The average choir may be ... what?  Thirty, maybe 50 for a medium ensemble, and a large orchestra chorus might go one or two hundred.  Worthy of note, Eric Whitacre's…Continue

Tags: Water Night, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

For Christopher...

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 16, 2011. 2 Replies

I sometimes like to think I have a way with words here and there.  Today, having learned of the death of Christopher Hitchens, I find the words coming in fits and starts, but any attempt at giving…Continue

Tags: Dmitri Shostakovich, Christopher Hitchens

Is Music Dangerous?

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 10, 2011. 3 Replies

It was a few years ago when I attended a Cleveland Orchestra concert which included Dmitri Shostakovich’s Fourth Symphony.  Up to that time, I had been aware of his more popular works, such as his…Continue

Tags: Shostakovich Symphony No. 4, Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk, Stalin, Shostakovich

Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir - Lux Aurumque

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 5, 2011. 3 Replies

When is a choir not a choir ... yet still a choir?When is an ensemble not assembled, yet is assembled?Ask Eric Whitacre. Some time back, he was sent a link on YouTube of a woman, singing a single…Continue

Tags: YouTube, Lux Aurumque, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir 2.0 - *** UPDATED ***

Started by Loren Miller Apr 5, 2011. 0 Replies

On 7 April, 2011, Eric Whitacre will release his latest Virtual Choir project, with the performance of his work, "Sleep."  This project involved the participation of no less than 2,051 voices from 58…Continue

Tags: YouTube, Sleep, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

The Playlist Vault of Classical Masters on A|N

Started by Roy The Infidel. Last reply by Roy The Infidel Sep 22, 2010. 9 Replies

Archive of featured playlists on Classical Masters.Continue

Tags: masters, classical, playlist, vault

The OTHER Side of Eric Whitacre

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 10, 2010. 2 Replies

Certainly, there is "Water Night," "Sleep," and the powerful "When David Heard."  To this day I shed tears listening to some of this stuff.And then ... there's Eric's OTHER side ... the side which…Continue

Conductors, Too

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by Steve Snyder Jun 19, 2010. 16 Replies

I hope this group will welcome from time to time discussions of conductors, as in some circles they are almost the auteurs of the work, usually those who get the rosettes in the Penguin Guide.  But…Continue

Shostakovich - Symphony No. 5

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 5, 2010. 5 Replies

As controversial as it is powerful, Dmitri Shostakovich's Fifth Symphony was written in the wake of the searing criticism of his opera, "Lady MacBeth of Mtensk."  This criticism had reduced…Continue

Tags: Lady MacBeth of Mtsensk, Soviet, Shostakovich, Michael Tilson Thomas

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Comment by Loren Miller on September 12, 2010 at 7:26pm
Actually, strike the "Ravel" - that's Puccini, I'm pretty sure. My bad.
Comment by Loren Miller on September 11, 2010 at 8:24pm
Of the pix, I recognize (in the order I see them):

Beethoven, Debussy, Ravel, Mozart, Brahms (?), Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Mahler and Prokofiev.

For the rest, I might guess, but not entirely certain.
Comment by Rich Goss on September 11, 2010 at 6:34pm
Did we ever identify the composers pictures? What fun. Each picture is historically significant, especially in graduate music classes. Knowing about the composers, especially what they looked like, adds to the understanding and therefore appreciation of what they had to say.


Definitely Beethoven. I consider Beethoven to be the greatest composer. He brought on the Romantic Period.

No doubt Claude DeBussy. I'm addicted to the Prelude to the Suite Bergamaster. Sets up a beautiful mood for the day.

Third: Dunno. I would guess Tchaikovsky.

Certainly Puccini who's face I would recognize anywhere. I'm not gay, but I can actually state that Puccini has given me more physical pleasure than any other man. Music and sex stimulate the same section of the parietal lobe. Especially Tosca. I consider the first act the greatest in all opera.

Comment by Loren Miller on August 22, 2010 at 7:42pm
Bloody hell ... although for the longest time, I associated Beethoven's Pastorale with satyrs and flying horses (with thanks to Disney, Stoki, and Fantasia. I think I can state pretty confidently that my now-grown daughter knows who Ludwig von is ... and I know for a fact she's SEEN Michelangelo's David. As for anyone else her age ... your guess is as good as mine.
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on August 22, 2010 at 1:15pm
Civilization in decline:

Most US students think Beethoven is a dog

By Karin Zeitvogel

WASHINGTON — Most young Americans entering university this year can't write in cursive, think email is too slow, that Beethoven's a dog and Michelangelo a computer virus, according to an annual list compiled by two academics at a US college.

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Comment by James M. Martin on June 27, 2010 at 11:29am
In the May issue of BBC music, there is a photo caption that puts to lie the editor's familiarity with Melville and Britten, as it characterizes Claggart, the ship's first officer in the novella and opera, "Billy Budd," as "loathsome." I started to write them to complain but thought I have better things to do. Both Britten and Melville were homosexual, and both "Peter Grimes" and "Billy Budd" are sneaky, brilliant ways to voice a homosexual dilemma. Grimes is ostracized by the villagers because he is "loathsome" (read "different"), while in "Billy," Claggart represents repressed homosexuality, which Melville rightfully sees as a destructive force. (If you doubt him, consider Senator Larry Craig.)

It is Claggart's attraction to and infatuation with Billy that makes him want to hurt the lad, Billy becoming a scapegoat for closeted feelings of attraction to a much younger male. (I thought the Robert Ryan performance in the movie version, with director Peter Ustinov as Captain Vere, superb.) While "loathsome" for the purposes of drama, such individuals are, ultimately, to be pitied. They've carried around a secret of such immense self-explanatory dimension they've been turned into schizophrenic beasts.

I wonder if the killing of the young deck hand in "Grimes" was not the equivalent of today's homosexual serial killers on the one hand (think Jeffrey Dahmer!), and symbolic on the other for the killing of the homosexual trait in order to hide it from reality. The latter perfectly explains Sergei M. Eisenstein's dialogue in "Ivan the Terrible, Part II" where, after the unintended murder of the effeminate nephew in "Ivan," the tsar tells the Oprichnik (KGB) to let the assassin go, as "he has killed my worst enemy." (Eisenstein was a thorough-going Freudianist, and homosexual.)

So I think the "loathsome" epithet, even in a photo caption, is a bit unfair. It does not explain what makes Claggart loathsome. And that is the most important thing.

I knew I would become a devotee of Britten when I heard his "Sinfonia da Requiem." I followed this by the "War Requiem" (oh, my!), and then "Grimes." Now, I cannot get too much of his work. I am aware of the rumors now surfacing that he was a boy lover. It is one thing to love and another to touch. Sir Benjamin was a man of great personal integrity, one of the first musical geniuses to be completely comfortable in his own skin as an open homosexual.
Comment by Jaume on June 22, 2010 at 5:37pm
Richard, it's Schiller's text I had in mind, not Beethoven's music. I was only answering James' question ("I don't think the Ode to Joy is deity-specific, is it?") using what can actually be found in the text. I don't even claim that the Ode to Joy reflects Schiller's (and, a fortiori, Beethoven's) religious views.
Comment by Rich Goss on June 22, 2010 at 4:27pm
Jaume, about your reference to the Ode To Joy. I always pictured Beethoven as humanist rather than religious. He wrote some religious stuff but that was the zeitgeist of the time.

He was born during the American Revolution and influenced by it his whole life. He was into freedom and the individual more than God and religion. I think this love of freedom comes out in Fidelio, his only opera. The Leonora overtures all have a trumpet solo that depicts the arrival of freedom and liberation.

Beethoven, more than anybody, brought on the Romantic Period.
Comment by James M. Martin on June 19, 2010 at 1:22pm
Maybe we are swinging back around to our Mahler-versus-Bruckner debate. Someone once said, "Mahler spent his career looking for God; Bruckner had already found him."
Comment by Jaume on June 19, 2010 at 12:29pm
With the exception of opera...

There are other exceptions. The most famous one are the Carmina Burana (the original, not Carl Orff's), a collection of very irreligious songs made by members of the Catholic clergy.

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