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For people who love opera, ballet, and classical music. A place to relax and enjoy the soothing sound of the masters. (Incept date, 0401.10)

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Gregorian chants

Started by LuRob. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7, 2016. 1 Reply

Do you like this style of plain chant?This is monody, no acccompaniment and no abrupt changes in the melody.Continue

Hindemith, Mathias Grunewald, the Nazis, &c.

Started by James M. Martin Jul 4, 2012. 0 Replies

When I was a bachelor at a…Continue

Virtual Choir 3.0 - Water Night

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tony Carroll Apr 2, 2012. 1 Reply

Words may not suffice here.  The average choir may be ... what?  Thirty, maybe 50 for a medium ensemble, and a large orchestra chorus might go one or two hundred.  Worthy of note, Eric Whitacre's…Continue

Tags: Water Night, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

For Christopher...

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 16, 2011. 2 Replies

I sometimes like to think I have a way with words here and there.  Today, having learned of the death of Christopher Hitchens, I find the words coming in fits and starts, but any attempt at giving…Continue

Tags: Dmitri Shostakovich, Christopher Hitchens

Is Music Dangerous?

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 10, 2011. 3 Replies

It was a few years ago when I attended a Cleveland Orchestra concert which included Dmitri Shostakovich’s Fourth Symphony.  Up to that time, I had been aware of his more popular works, such as his…Continue

Tags: Shostakovich Symphony No. 4, Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk, Stalin, Shostakovich

Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir - Lux Aurumque

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 5, 2011. 3 Replies

When is a choir not a choir ... yet still a choir?When is an ensemble not assembled, yet is assembled?Ask Eric Whitacre. Some time back, he was sent a link on YouTube of a woman, singing a single…Continue

Tags: YouTube, Lux Aurumque, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir 2.0 - *** UPDATED ***

Started by Loren Miller Apr 5, 2011. 0 Replies

On 7 April, 2011, Eric Whitacre will release his latest Virtual Choir project, with the performance of his work, "Sleep."  This project involved the participation of no less than 2,051 voices from 58…Continue

Tags: YouTube, Sleep, Virtual Choir, Eric Whitacre

The Playlist Vault of Classical Masters on A|N

Started by Roy The Infidel. Last reply by Roy The Infidel Sep 22, 2010. 9 Replies

Archive of featured playlists on Classical Masters.Continue

Tags: masters, classical, playlist, vault

The OTHER Side of Eric Whitacre

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 10, 2010. 2 Replies

Certainly, there is "Water Night," "Sleep," and the powerful "When David Heard."  To this day I shed tears listening to some of this stuff.And then ... there's Eric's OTHER side ... the side which…Continue

Conductors, Too

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by Steve Snyder Jun 19, 2010. 16 Replies

I hope this group will welcome from time to time discussions of conductors, as in some circles they are almost the auteurs of the work, usually those who get the rosettes in the Penguin Guide.  But…Continue

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Comment by Jaume on March 29, 2011 at 4:49pm
I've heard the same argument made about Mozart's Requiem and Bach's Art of Fugue, but never about Bruckner's 9th so far.
Comment by James M. Martin on March 29, 2011 at 4:19pm
The greatest argument for the non-existence of "God" is that had he existed, he would not have taken out Anton Bruckner before this devoted Christian finished his immortal 9th Symphony, arguably the greatest symphonic work in the literature.
Comment by Rich Goss on January 3, 2011 at 9:48am


Lancaster certainly ended his eminent career on a kinky note with Atlantic City. But the Verdi biog narration was excellent, very respectful, even reverential.


Did you ever get into Verdi's life? What a story. He was a beaten, broken man, living like a bum in Milan, when Guiseppina Straponi, the most famous soprano in Italy,
spotted him walking down the street. She stopped her carriage,
called out Maestro, Maestro, ran after him and handed the raggedy man
a score.


Verdi hadn't heard that appellation in years. He kept walking, not knowing who she was referring to. Finally, he said, “No, Thank you, but I don't compose anymore.”
(After two flops.) She replied wistfully, looking in his eyes
earnestly, “Oh, please, just read it.”


Which he did and the rest is history. The score was, of course, Nabucco and after its premiere Verdi emerged a national hero and patriot. “Va Pensiero” was sung and
hummed all over Europe, spreading like the plague. “Verdi in the
man Italy has been wasting for!” yelled the riotous audience at the
curtain call.


And if it weren't for this chance happening, Verdi's career probably wouldn't have happened. So, with all the movies Lancaster made, I remember him best for the Verdi
miniseries voice-over.


Comment by James M. Martin on January 3, 2011 at 12:22am
Lancaster was a good actor playing a role, not speaking for himself.  He made his living doing things that were not something he would personally do.  It was within the context that he said it; he also seduced a peasant girl so he could drink her breast milk.  Bertolucci is kinky tht way.  I think it had a great score by Morriconi.
Comment by Rich Goss on January 2, 2011 at 6:17pm

James, "au fond du temple saint" has long time been one of my favorite pieces of music.  I once saw Robert Merrill and Richard Tucker sing it at Carnegie in the
early '70s.  My finance's father, who at the time was a member
of the Jersey Symphony and friend of Ferde Grofe, of the Grand
Canyon Suite
, said, “now there's a couple of Jewish kids from NYC that
made out pretty well.”


To me, Verdi was the master of orchestration. Puccini and Bellini were master of melody, but Verdi was the Commander of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In my time, I've
seen ten out of 26 operas and still look forward to the remaining 16.


Quite right, should have said “twentieth century”. He died in 1903.


Burt Lancaster once did a laudatory and respectful, even obeisant, narration of a Verdi biog (four-part miniseries) on one of the learning channels; I think is was PBS. So
for Lancaster to say that about Verdi, would make the actor a
consummate phony and pseudo-intellectual. Just as James Mason at about
the same time narrated the life story of Felix Mendelssohn, you
could tell in his voice the reverence of an actor, who interprets
art, for a genius, who creates art.


By "pater familias", I take it you mean Mafia don.  It's not something Lancaster would say in real life. 



Comment by James M. Martin on January 2, 2011 at 12:36pm
Wasm't it in "1900" by Bertolucci that the pater familias landowner, played by Burt Lancaster, utters the hilarious line, "Verdi was full of shit!"  Give me a good modern opera any time.  I like "Nixon" and "Klinghoffer" by Adams and "Peter Grimes" by Benjamin Britten.  But I also love the duet about brotherhood in "The Pearl Fishers."
Comment by Rich Goss on January 2, 2011 at 10:35am

Who said Tosca was a confusing plot?  I must have seen Tosca ten times in my time, including Renata Tabaldi as Tosca and Bergonzi at Mario. 

The history of Rome is important to understand.  At the turn of the 19th century, all Italy was dominated by the Austro-Hungurian Empire.  The country was divided into city-states, with little national identity.  Scarpia was the police commissioner and ruled like a dictator.  Italy had a mafia, strong-man tradition, but citizens yearned for freedom and nationalism. 


That's why they identified with the Jews in Verdi's Nabucco, singing  Il Pensiaro.  This opera made Verdi an over-night hero. 

Comment by James M. Martin on January 1, 2011 at 6:32pm
All art aspires to the condition of music. --Pater
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on January 1, 2011 at 5:26pm

a gift of a human... music

"Music is a human right ... art as a right of the people." - conductor and social philosopher, Gustavo Dudamel 

"If you put a musical instrument in a kid's hand he will never pick up a gun." - José Antonio Abreu

Tavis Smily special and blog. WONDERFUL documentary.
 1 hour and worth the time!

covers "El Sistema", Dudamel's social philosophy, and career in Los Angeles.

Several times during the program it was said that the arts and music education teaches sensibility.

posted by Gary

Comment by Tom Pandelaere on November 12, 2010 at 3:50pm
Although Tallis strictly was not one of them, I know.

This strongly resembles the Deller recording:

Irrespective of the fact that it is a bible text, I can listen to this for hours.

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