Climate Concerns

The "CLIMATE CONCERNS" group is dedicated to discussion regarding the topic of the ever present and serious issue of changes to our climate due to the introduction into the atmosphere of human induced effects which prove harmful to the environment and which eventually may prove destructive to our planet. 

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Odd results of Climate Change

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 3. 73 Replies

Take an amusing quiz to learn about unexpected effects of Climate Change. After each multiple choice question, you see if you were right (and the right answer if you weren't).…Continue

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Temperature Anomaly Chart

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Plinius Aug 8. 1 Reply

From Climate Central, Temperature anomalies arranged by country from 1900 - 2016:Continue

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Comment by John Elder on March 11, 2017 at 4:28am

Washington post is the source for that last addition.

Comment by John Elder on March 11, 2017 at 4:27am

On Friday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced that the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rose at a record pace for the second straight year, reaching 401.5 parts per million. The two-year surge in carbon concentrations that took place in 2015 and 2016 has no precedent in the 59 years in which the agency has been tracking the level of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Spicer downplays EPA chief's carbon dioxide emissions denial

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White House press secretary Sean Spicer downplayed EPA head Scott Pruitt's comments on March 9 that carbon dioxide isn't a primary contributor to global warming. (The Washington Post)

There is no immediate evidence that any environmental organizations organized the deluge of calls to the new EPA administrator, but a single comment on Reddit may have helped spur the outpouring of criticism. The post outlined how Pruitt’s opponents could contact his office, writing:

“Here’s the number to call his office (EPA Office of the Administrator) to offer your feelings about Pruitt’s comments: (202) 564-4700. Script: Hi, my name is _________. I’m calling because I’m seriously concerned about Scott Pruitt’s claim that CO2 is not a major driver of climate change. The role of CO2 and humans as drivers of climate change is widely accepted among the scientific community, and I’m deeply concerned that Mr. Pruitt, as the head of the EPA, rejects scientific evidence.”

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on March 4, 2017 at 2:07pm

Donald, you may not be aware that Google search results have been "hacked" by right wing extremism. Robert Mercer, an ultraconservative climate denier billionaire who is a computer genius has shifted both Google and YouTube results using  AI, big data mining, and bot armies.

See Robert Mercer: the big data billionaire waging war on mainstream media

Google’s search results on certain subjects were being dominated by rightwing and extremist sites. Jonathan Albright, a professor of communications at Elon University, North Carolina, who had mapped the news ecosystem and found millions of links between rightwing sites “strangling” the mainstream media, told me that trackers from sites like Breitbart could also be used by companies like Cambridge Analytica to follow people around the web and then, via Facebook, target them with ads.
Comment by Donald L. Engel on February 14, 2017 at 10:14pm

A couple of days ago I entered the below URL which is a google search page.  I received a note from someone that said it only shows a google search page.  I know.  But look at the subject of each of those entries on that page.  They all say that global warming is a scam by the UN to kill capitalism.  Read a couple of the entries.

I think I wrote on one of these threads that technologies  and automation  are the main causes of unemployment,  Somehow the UN is trying to change us to some other way for everyone to get a ;piece of the pie.  I just put it out there for some feedback on your feelings.

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on February 14, 2017 at 6:25pm

Joan to answer your question, I think it's really important. I don't like to be in an echo chamber I like all my ideas challenged. Wanted to see if I had overlooked something about Bates. 

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on February 14, 2017 at 6:16pm

TED The magic washing machine | Hans Rosling

Hans Rosling: "Me and my mother said 'thank you industrialization, thank you steel mills, thank you power station, and thank you chemical processing industry that gave us time to read books.'"

I disagree with his politics but I appreciate this sentiment. Lots of things that might be bad for the environment enrich our lives enormously. 

He died recently.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on February 12, 2017 at 12:16am
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 11, 2017 at 5:18pm

Catastrophic fire conditions for New South Wales, Australia this weekend.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 10, 2017 at 2:05pm

Australia swelters, you know coal-loving Australia. So they're blaming the power blackouts on wind energy. Are they too much like the USA?

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 10, 2017 at 3:51am

Hi, Čenek, it has been a long time since I last saw a post from you. 

I don't know whether the Karl study is valid or not or if the study was rushed to meet the deadline of an Obama program. Maybe climate scientists had a motive to produce an invalid study. 

What I do know is the snow pack is not as deep as in previous years and drought conditions exist downslope from the Western mountain ranges. I also have seen films of the melting glaciers from Mt. Kilamangero in Africa to the Himalayas in India resulting in a lack of water to farms at lower elevations. The films of glaciers that I once saw as a young woman in Alaska are virtually gone from the valleys leaving terminal moraines where once existed huge glaciers. The photos of Glacier Park don't look as it did when I took the children there in 1975. 

I live in a forest in northeastern Washington state that is drying out and presenting fire hazards as soils dry out and trees become stressed, then infected with insects and diseases. 

Our well's water level has dropped from its normal depth and will require deeper drilling. This in spite of the fact that we are located on an aquifer that drains from two huge and deep lakes left by the Ice Age. 

Extinctions occur that we can observe from the bird migratory counts that take place each year. 

I realize you don't trust scientific studies because of the knowledge of fraudulent data, nor can you and I trust anecdotal observations. However, bluebirds seem to have disappeared from my part of the country. Even with the effort to build and place proper nesting boxes for them, the population has declined over the years.

So, let us assume John Bates revealed political tampering with climate change data. If it is true, I would like to hang the tampering scientists by their thumbs. If not true, Bates could use a bit of a swing. 

What difference does it make if my, and others' observations are accurate? 


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