Death & dying

Working with hospice is tough enough without the entanglement of religion and family members who may or may not be helpful in the dying processes. I respect their work and the goals of Hospice; several family members and friends were helped, especially families. I have no idea how one bridges the gap when a person is dying, weary, perhaps sick, sometimes tormented by people who love them, and all the while knowing death is an end of life as we know it and a change to a different form of energy. I don't understand why that is so frightening; death is like going to sleep; the brain and other organs begin to shut down when blood flow stops. My children have instructions to hold my hand if they can be with me, and rejoice that I came into the world and found it to be just splendid.

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Death and dying from an atheist point of view

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Resources for understanding hospice and the process of dying

Started by Hunter. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 22, 2018. 2 Replies

Greetings, all,About a week ago, my mother began the process of dying and was put into in-home hospice care.  The care worker is very good, and the care being provided is excellent.  Unfortunately,…Continue

The Comfort of an Atheist Afterlife

Started by annet. Last reply by annet Jun 14, 2012. 2 Replies

Today on Radio lab they did a really good hour on death and the afterlife.  Here is the link: pulled it…Continue


Started by dr kellie. Last reply by dr kellie May 10, 2012. 14 Replies

I am about to pick out my gravestone.  I need to come up with something I want written on it.  I have some ideas... This isn't meant to be a discussion about whether or not to be buried or have a…Continue

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Comment by Geeky Girl42 on June 24, 2014 at 8:59pm

I didn't notice that the dates for the comments were from 2012 when i clicked the join button. If anyone is interested in conversation about the topic of death let me know. I've certainly have been having issues with the idea of it lately. But not the issues that most people seem to discuss.

Comment by Jennifer Hancock on June 29, 2013 at 9:41am

Hi - just to let you know - I recently published a short book - The Humanist Approach to Grief and Grieving -

Let me know if you want to read it and I'll send you a free pdf - email me at  It's a short book to give away to folks who are grieving - to help them get started on their grief journey and to point them in the direction of resources available to humanists. 

Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on January 16, 2013 at 3:47am

irony .. death is always surrounded by life surrounded by death.. n ..

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 5, 2013 at 12:32pm

Guitarzeroh Tubes, great equation and true, especially for my type diabetes. We are responsible for lifestyle caused diseases;

booklover, thank you for your helping us understand the difference between Type 1 & 2. No one benefits by blaming the victim. I appreciate you. 

Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on January 5, 2013 at 6:28am

corporate tradition? + faith based trad. = u die quicker and drive up cost of healthcare imho...

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 2, 2012 at 11:54am

Guitarzeroh Tubes, In my opinion, both are dying because they demonstrate over and over again, throughout history, there are flaws in each system and continuing to do the same things creates conditions that harm flourishing. With religion, it doesn't take very long for corrupt leaders to evolve leading to dominionism, i.e. "my group if better than your group," "My religion is better than your religion," and wars of power, destruction, bombings and shootings. and corruption takes over, followers turn into sheep, and no one benefits. 

With capitalism, the same evolution takes place, at the individual level, local level, national and international levels. The flaws of capitalism  based on principles of growth of wealth, are not sustainable.

First of all, assets, sucked out of those who labor toward those who own capital creates an ever widening economic gap and a class society.

Second, compound growth uses more and more resources on a planet with limited resources that leads to depletion of natural resources, pollution of water, soil, and air and cannot be sustained.

Third, exponential growth of world population outstrips the ability of Earth to feed and water living organisms. Life, as we know it, cannot be sustained. 

Fourth, building a society on fundamentally flawed religious and political systems collapses from within, creating conflict, resulting in scapegoating and not paying attention to basic values. A society that does not create opportunity for all to flourish cannot be sustained. 


Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on December 2, 2012 at 5:30am

dunno which is dying or dead.. faith or capitalism? ; )

Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on November 14, 2012 at 9:51am

she mentioned her dad dying.. and the fakey ways folks that followed.. I think it's mentioned within:
or that podcast episode

Comment by Dogly on May 8, 2012 at 9:39am

Thank you Joan.  My sister is dying of cancer now.  She is not a believer, but always keeps her ideas to herself.  One brother has tried to push a bishop on her to give her "Extreme Unction".  The rest of us heathens are protecting her from his 'ministrations'.   

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2012 at 8:27pm

Jennifer, I am glad you are with this discussion group. I'm sitting in my garden as I welcome you. It is so good to be alive and at peace. 

I took this photo a few minutes ago and birds sing in celebration of spring. 


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