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Don't Pray for Me

Don't pray for me is a group for atheists with chronic illness or disability. Providing support without superstition.

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GIRD YOUR LOINS PREACHER MAN I AM COMING AFTER YOU.

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Comment by Tori on August 21, 2009 at 2:15pm
Hi Jean Marie - Welcome. I'm new to this group myself.

It's nice to have the perspective of someone, such as yourself, who is a nurse, rather than being a patient. I know that as a patient I don't have any interest in bringing up religion or 'spiritualism' with any of the health care staff caring for me when I'm in the hospital - for one, I don't want to be 'blessed', prayed for or over, or preached at, but mostly I feel that mine, the Drs., nurses and other staff's religious beliefs are completely irrelevant to what is taking place. In addition I would be horrified to have any of them want to include any of that in my care, of course! This is why I indicate on my admission forms that I am atheist - I especially don't want the hospital clergy visiting me.

Now, if I thought there was obvious reason to believe any of the hospital staff caring for me was non-theist, I would definitely find that of particular interest and might let on that I too am like minded, but other wise, I see no reason for religion, or lack thereof, to even come up - it has nothing to do with why I'm even in the hospital.

I do have to admit that there is sometimes a wee small part of me, way in the back of my mind, that for a small second every once in a while wonders if there is some theist hospital personnel who may, in some, inadvertent way (or not) give me some substandard medical (or other) attention because I'm atheist. Too bad that thought even has to cross my mind, you know?

I read your blog and really enjoyed it. I haven't been a nurse, but still, all in all I can relate to your situation and I think you handle it very well. I'm not at all surprised the issue of religion comes up so often, and that patients ask you about your own beliefs, in the way they do, so much. I completely understand how it relates, in their minds, to what their going through, but has nothing to do with you and what you're doing for them, and has nothing to do with your job. You're right for keeping your atheism 'private' to protect your job.

I was a massage therapist for many years - perhaps that's another reason I relate.

I read Ruth's comment on your blog - loved it! Absolutely a woman after my own heart!!!!

I'd love to read your input here anytime.

I'll be going back to hospital in December for my next spinal angiograph. It'll be at a Catholic hospital in AZ - I've been there before, for the same procedure, and also for spinal cord AVM and spinal cord aneurysm embolization. They were all really good to me there, even though they knew I'm atheist - but I expected as much, after all, they're professionals, and it's one of the best hospitals in the country for these kinds of procedures.
Comment by Tori on August 6, 2009 at 8:53am
Hey KDelphi - hope your MRI came out well and maybe even indicated you won't need surgery. But if you do need it I think it's great you'll have the support and company of your sister. How awesome that it will allow you to have treatment at a better hospital, and know someone who cares about you is there with you too.

As for uploading a different avatar, I'll have to check into it. I've done it, but it's been a while. If I figure it out I'll let you know.
Comment by KDelphi on August 1, 2009 at 11:03am
I keep trying to change my pic and it doesnt seem to want to upload--does anyone know what I am doing wrong?

I go for an MRI w/contrast today to help decide on whether to do surgery...if they decide I have to (symptoms getting worse) my sister is going to take me to Cleveland Clinic, so I dont have to go to the crappy medicaid clinic here for it. I am lucky to have family that will do that, but most do not...we need universal health care , folks! Thanks!
Comment by Tori on July 6, 2009 at 11:11pm
Hi Kasey - thanks for the welcome.
Comment by Kasey on June 23, 2009 at 2:40pm
Welcome, Tori. Good for you for speaking up.
Comment by Tori on June 23, 2009 at 1:45am
Hello everyone. I'm new here and wanted to say 'hi'.

I have an SCI (spinal cord injury) - T-1, T-2 incomplete, from an AVM (ateriovenous malformation) rupture in my cord. It was obliterated when it was embolized, but I still have an aneurysm at the same level, which is embolized. I had quite a bit of damage to the left side of my lower body from the AVM rupture.

I've heard so much 'god really took care of you' after surgery, and 'we're praying for you' that I could scream. I told everyone who said that to me that 'god' didn't have anything to do with it, that the success of the surgery was because of the skill of the surgeons, and that while I very much appreciated their good thoughts and wishes, it wasn't prayer but rather physiological and medical factors that had been on my side.

As far as I'm concerned it did them good to have a little shock. ;-)
Comment by Andrew Cheadle on June 13, 2009 at 11:32am
I don't have a chronic illness or disability, but I find that today our medical professionals mix religion way too much into their work, and it frightens me that if I should ever become very seriously ill that my future may be in the hands of a theist! I totally support the work you guys are doing! Keep it up!
Comment by Krista on May 31, 2009 at 3:49pm
:). Been there. My grandfather often "lays hands" on my son and denounced the devil in him and prays for his miraculous recovery. My son has cerebral palsy and is autistic. I appreciate the thought behind the gesture, but it makes me cringe- for both my grandfather and my son. Of course, he attributes my son's progress to the almighty, and not the many hours of work I put into taking care of him every day, and providing his therapy, or the support of other family and friends...
Comment by Kasey on May 31, 2009 at 1:27pm
I went to an art show today that I was helping to mangage. I didn't feel at all well and a nice woman hugged me (ok), and prayed in my ear while she did(ugh!) I do appreciate that she was trying to help me in her own way, but ... ugh!
Comment by Kasey on May 31, 2009 at 1:25pm
Vent away, Krista. Sorry I didn't welcome you right away. I've been distracted by a project. It's done now so I can catch up.
 

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