Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

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Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

Eco-Logical is a group for anyone who cares about clean air, drinkable water, a sustainable economy, and environmental justice.

Location: The Irreplaceable Earth
Members: 338
Latest Activity: Nov 3

Welcome to Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

 

Note: Sylvain Duford, the group's creator, has left A|N. I am acting as moderator of the group in his place. Please contact me if you have any questions. - Dallas the Phallus.

Discussion Forum

Step Changes in Your Future

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 92 Replies

Amazon Rain Forest on Tipping Point

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 23. 0 Replies

2019 Arctic Melt Drama

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 16. 13 Replies

A New Climate Model and Our Invisible Event Horizon

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 21. 2 Replies

Methane, more scary than we thought

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 74 Replies

Our Age of Environmental Breakdown

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Aug 1. 8 Replies

Five Years Until Eocene Lock-In

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 12. 1 Reply

Another Positive Feedback we'd missed

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 20. 34 Replies

New Climate Regime

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 18. 2 Replies

Probability versus Risk

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 4. 2 Replies

Glacier Surprise

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 11. 0 Replies

Greenland Melt Likely to Accelerate around 2030

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 23. 1 Reply

Nitrous Oxide Shocker

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 15. 1 Reply

Pliocene Foreshadow

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 9. 1 Reply

Catastrophic 2 Degree Rise in 50 Years

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 7. 5 Replies

Big Tech Doublespeak

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Chris Feb 26. 2 Replies

The Stratocumulus Tipping Point

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Feb 26. 2 Replies

Plummeting insect numbers "threaten collapse of nature"

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 11. 3 Replies

Big Hole Eating Away Thwaites Glacier

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 31. 0 Replies

Aerosol Bad News

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 22. 0 Replies

Climate Denial Crock of the Week

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 11, 2019 at 3:51pm

Warm spring may result in gentle breakup

"Following the warmest March Alaskans have ever felt, forecasters are predicting a mellow transition from ice to water for most big rivers in the state.

"Things don’t always go that way during spring breakup, when chunks of river ice freed from the cold grip of winter can lock up in river bends and back up water into communities.

"Already this spring, weak river ice fractured and dissolved early enough to set new records in the Nenana and Kuskokwim ice classics. In both contests, people bet on when a tripod standing on nearby river ice will fall as the ice disintegrates."

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 9, 2019 at 6:29pm

Paul Beckwith interview

The "Hothouse Earth" study expects average global temperature to settle between 4 and 5C hotter, even if the Paris Climate Accords were carried out. Sea levels would go up 10-60m. Even our best climate plan takes us to disaster.

Comment by Chris on December 6, 2018 at 6:26am

Here's a link to Superfund sites in the U.S.  Of course the polluters don't pay for the cleanup of such sites.  Most will remain  toxic because  there is no tax money for the cleanup.  The taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for the cleanup. The companies that poluted there should be forced even into bankrupccy into cleaning the toxins up.

http://www.toxicsites.us/

On that note check this out

Oil Industry Cleanup Costs Vastly Exceed Alberta Government’s Estimates

Regan Boychuk of Reclaim Alberta explains that Canadian taxpayers could ultimately be on the hook for hundreds of billions of oil industry cleanup costs The link above includes a transcript.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on October 21, 2018 at 10:19pm

Temperature is higher in the Arctic. My big ugly arrow points to 2018, which I compare to two previous warm years 2017 and 2012.

image source (years shown separately there)

Thanks for the temperature outlook, Joan.

Thanks for the Arctic News blog, Chris. Sam Carana is on the alarmist end of the spectrum, but cutting edge climate research keeps getting closer to his alarmist position, doesn't it. 

I personally felt today as if the US government is devolving, displaying overt corruption and dangerous political entanglements with Russia and Saudi Arabia, in move for fossil fuel interest domination. This almost guarantees locking in irreversible climate destabilization past the point where human action could make a difference. If we hit 1.5°C rise by 2030, that alone is enough to melt all of the Tibetan Plateau permafrost, and very likely to trigger a big methane release at the East Siberian Shelf. People don't realize how fragile is our civilization. Fukushima-like events could happen from floods too, or even from social unrest. Today felt like a step-change in risk. See also my political letter.

I doubt we'll be extinct by 2026, but we could - by then - live on planet progressively pushing us toward that end. <sigh>

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 19, 2018 at 1:37am
Comment by Grinning Cat on October 11, 2018 at 11:50am

Chris, perhaps you're thinking of the Mosuo or Na people in southwest China, who commonly practice "walking marriage" or "visiting marriage": extended matrilineal families living together, where young women get their own bedrooms and can freely invite lovers for nighttime visits. Couples don't live together and don't get formally married, and biological fathers have a much smaller role than do mothers in the lives of their children; men care for their nieces and nephews in their own family home. 'Some older Na report having upwards of 30, 40, even 50 partners throughout their lifetime" and despite these changes [towards common serial monogamy, in the face of cultural integration with the Han Chinese], "notions of exclusivity are not entrenched, and the Na language has no word for 'jealousy'."' (Wikipedia)

Comment by Chris on September 18, 2018 at 1:42am

Will humans be extinct by 2026?

Not only humans, but many species.

It's the sixth age of mass extinction.

There are many scientific articles about this. 

Having more human [babies] and human population seems to be 'controversial.' 

Why is human population growth such a contentious subject?

Will religious groups, or economists get that over population is a problem?

Comment by Chris on September 18, 2018 at 1:25am

Perhaps the best way to have a relationship is to not get married which appears to be a contract for ownership.

I have a friend who was married five to ten years ago. No one has heard from him since then -  including his family.

I've heard speculation that men are more likely to isolate women (wives) than women to men.

In that context where there is a dominant partner perhaps women may culpable as men often are accused to.

I haven't looked at the statistics -  either way it's despicable to isolate a person from their friends and family.

As a human species my thoughts are we are programed for monogamous serial relationships.

Having written that I read that a culture in China  allows women to take on multiple partners (sorry I don't recall the  culture).

In the current day of knowledge of sexually transmitted disease  is a hazard. 

Jealousy also is a factor with multiple partners.

To throw this another way Parental Alienation Syndrome from my reading  is usually directed from women towards men - at the child's expense.

As a 'joke'   one partner is difficult to deal with - along with the 'in-laws' and what not.

Having sexual relations with multiple partners  simultaneously may be suicidal.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on August 29, 2018 at 2:15pm

...women (and men) in open marriages, ....

My wife and I were two of them.

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 29, 2018 at 2:12pm

Back to the group's topic...

FUTURE HISTORY: a murky scene, thick smog and pollution everywhere from multiple smokestacks. Two factory workers with caps and lunchboxes; one says to the other: “The great Trump regulatory rollbacks of 2017 sure showed those environmentalists who’s boss!”

 

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