Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

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Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

Eco-Logical is a group for anyone who cares about clean air, drinkable water, a sustainable economy, and environmental justice.

Location: The Irreplaceable Earth
Members: 339
Latest Activity: 23 hours ago

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Note: Sylvain Duford, the group's creator, has left A|N. I am acting as moderator of the group in his place. Please contact me if you have any questions. - Dallas the Phallus.

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Do we need nuclear power?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 23 hours ago. 4 Replies

Global Warming - The Math Test

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Plinius Sep 23. 2 Replies

Large parts of East Antartica to melt

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 20. 0 Replies

Step Changes in Your Future

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 20. 23 Replies

Fat-Tail Risks Before 2°C Rise

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 16. 0 Replies

Looming Blue Ocean Event?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 10. 33 Replies

Ocean Warming Alert

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Chris G Sep 8. 1 Reply

Methane, more scary than we thought

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 6. 55 Replies

Resonance makes disproportionate weather extremes

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 31. 3 Replies

Arctic Lightning - Surprise!

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 30. 3 Replies

Canary Species Reveal Tipping Piont

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 22. 0 Replies

Rain Bombs

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 15. 9 Replies

Entering the era of catastrophic climate change

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 14. 2 Replies

All the water on Planet Earth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 11. 31 Replies

Go Home, Jet Stream, You're Drunk

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Good news

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 2. 33 Replies

Transitioning now to Centuries of Storms

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 2. 12 Replies

Multiple Interacting Tipping Points Ahead

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 27. 4 Replies

Climate Denial Crock of the Week

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Comment by Chris G on March 17, 2012 at 9:52pm

Here's is an animation showing the global pattern of human land use over the last eight thousand hears, a time when human populations began expanding following the origins of agriculture. It's interesting how quickly humans began effecting growth. The write up below the video explains it more.

Comment by Chris G on March 17, 2012 at 7:47pm

There are areas around Norfolk VA are already experiencing flooding and the city has paid for people to raise their houses. The Naval shipyard is going to raise the docks too.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 17, 2012 at 10:30am

Chris - interesting map.  Being selfish, I looked at my own area.  Surprised to see effect this far inland.  My town is on the Columbia river.  Through no intent or insight of my own, I live at a higher, hillside elevation.  Better make sure the guest room is ready.

Comment by Chris G on March 17, 2012 at 4:04am

Here's a map that shows rising sea levels. It opens at 1 foot and can be adjusted to 10 feet.

Comment by Chris G on March 17, 2012 at 3:43am

For the first time ever, the EPA is on the verge of proposing federal limits on climate disrupting carbon pollution. I just sent a message to the EPA to let them know I support strong carbon pollution protections. You should too! 

Check it out: http://action.sierraclub.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&id...

Comment by Chris G on March 17, 2012 at 2:46am

Here's a query for global warming solutions from The Union for Concerned Scientists that results in a bunch of solutions.

Here's their Take Action site and an article to Flood Congress with Support for Climate Action

Comment by Guy on March 16, 2012 at 9:46pm

Sorry I get long winded sometimes and my point gets lost. I if you are working on these things already? What can I and others do to help? The list is a good start. How do we get from here to there. Besides doing our own little thing around home. Is there a plan? I never said I wanted to be an individualist.  Although if you were to get a half a billion individuals to do the right thing don't you think that would help the cause? I find with no plan the direction gets lost.

Comment by Chris G on March 16, 2012 at 9:32pm

With computing and technology at its current level gasoline tax could be levied depending on the mpg and pollution output of the car being filled. This could be done with a camera that records the license plate to identify which kind of vehicle it is then when it's a Humve the taxes could be higher than if it were say a Prius. 

Comment by TNT666 on March 16, 2012 at 4:58pm

Guy, you missed my point... the problems I stated ARE the ones I'm actively working on at the present time. I make bloody sure I don't aid the miscreants of our world in keeping humanity down, that's why I do not promote individual guilt trips (individual actions which do not significantly help the planet), I promote changing the system. I WAS the individual purist environmentalist (guilt-tripper) for 2-1/2 decades, I grew out of it once I understood where the problem really lays, after watching every little battle we'd win be lost a few years later, as soon as we turned our backs. If you had known me in my 20s-30s, you could have found not a single environmental flaw in my day to day behaviour, and I encouraged (through example) many others along that path... but meanwhile, more greedy social climbers were doing the exact opposite and destroying life at the systemic levels in unprecedented levels. Acting individually has been going on for several decades, it's not a new idea. The environmental movement needs to change its priorities.

The problem with winning small battles is that the rich greedies of the world pretend to be beaten, and then patiently wait 2-3-5 years, until the whatever small campaign we're doing is out of the media picture, then, behind closed doors, in secrecy, they go ahead and reverse whatever small win we had achieved. In the end, us little Davids can win any number of battles, but without cutting off Goliath's head, Goliath just keep regenerating, and growing.

Another error the environmental movement has suffered from in the past 3 decades is focusing on: "lets do it for our children". The problem with this mantra is that it delays all action to the future, and further, and further, with each generation, and nothing ever gets done. It's time we said fuck the children, let's do this now, FOR US.

Comment by Chris G on March 16, 2012 at 4:43pm

I like the idea about stopping breeding. I've been suggesting that 1st children should be a tax deduction, the second should not have a tax benefit and all consequential children should be a tax liability - with a grandfather clause for existing children. For some reason no one likes that idea.

The idea for integrating business and housing is great too. That's the way cities were built before the automobile. On the east coast and in metropolises there are grocery stores within easy walking distance. City planning is horrible and they are just beginning to rethink city planning.

Campaign refinance has to change so big donations from corporations don't bid for politicians. 

The reason OWS hasn't come up with a comprehensive list is because there are so many things that are wrong that it would be easier to say what's right. 

You have a good list TN666.

 

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