Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

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Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

Eco-Logical is a group for anyone who cares about clean air, drinkable water, a sustainable economy, and environmental justice.

Location: The Irreplaceable Earth
Members: 339
Latest Activity: Nov 2

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Note: Sylvain Duford, the group's creator, has left A|N. I am acting as moderator of the group in his place. Please contact me if you have any questions. - Dallas the Phallus.

Discussion Forum

Extinction Rebellion Group and Climate Crisis Coming Sooner

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 2. 3 Replies

2018 Arctic Drama

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 28. 14 Replies

Glimpse Our Future World

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 27. 0 Replies

On the IPCC 1.5ºC Special Report

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 13. 5 Replies

Anthropocene Complexity

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Oct 11. 9 Replies

Even 2°C Rise Could Tip To Hothouse Earth

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 5. 0 Replies

Jet Stream and AMOC to disappear

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Oct 2. 1 Reply

Methane, more scary than we thought

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 25. 72 Replies

Step Changes in Your Future

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 18. 61 Replies

Another Positive Feedback we'd missed

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 15. 28 Replies

Mega-Floods Nonlinear Ramp-up

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 6. 0 Replies

Disruptive Ecosystem Change Has Begun

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 31. 4 Replies

2 degrees warming in 10 to 15 years

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 3. 3 Replies

Instead of 82°, what if today's high had been 141°F

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 2. 7 Replies

Atlantic Tipping Point in View

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Plinius Jul 23. 2 Replies

Facing Reality is harder than it used to be

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 14. 5 Replies

Amazon Rain Forest Oscillation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 26. 1 Reply

Climate Science Summary for 2017

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 15. 0 Replies

Climate Denial Crock of the Week

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on October 21, 2018 at 10:19pm

Temperature is higher in the Arctic. My big ugly arrow points to 2018, which I compare to two previous warm years 2017 and 2012.

image source (years shown separately there)

Thanks for the temperature outlook, Joan.

Thanks for the Arctic News blog, Chris. Sam Carana is on the alarmist end of the spectrum, but cutting edge climate research keeps getting closer to his alarmist position, doesn't it. 

I personally felt today as if the US government is devolving, displaying overt corruption and dangerous political entanglements with Russia and Saudi Arabia, in move for fossil fuel interest domination. This almost guarantees locking in irreversible climate destabilization past the point where human action could make a difference. If we hit 1.5°C rise by 2030, that alone is enough to melt all of the Tibetan Plateau permafrost, and very likely to trigger a big methane release at the East Siberian Shelf. People don't realize how fragile is our civilization. Fukushima-like events could happen from floods too, or even from social unrest. Today felt like a step-change in risk. See also my political letter.

I doubt we'll be extinct by 2026, but we could - by then - live on planet progressively pushing us toward that end. <sigh>

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 19, 2018 at 1:37am
Comment by Grinning Cat on October 11, 2018 at 11:50am

Chris, perhaps you're thinking of the Mosuo or Na people in southwest China, who commonly practice "walking marriage" or "visiting marriage": extended matrilineal families living together, where young women get their own bedrooms and can freely invite lovers for nighttime visits. Couples don't live together and don't get formally married, and biological fathers have a much smaller role than do mothers in the lives of their children; men care for their nieces and nephews in their own family home. 'Some older Na report having upwards of 30, 40, even 50 partners throughout their lifetime" and despite these changes [towards common serial monogamy, in the face of cultural integration with the Han Chinese], "notions of exclusivity are not entrenched, and the Na language has no word for 'jealousy'."' (Wikipedia)

Comment by Chris on September 18, 2018 at 1:42am

Will humans be extinct by 2026?

Not only humans, but many species.

It's the sixth age of mass extinction.

There are many scientific articles about this. 

Having more human [babies] and human population seems to be 'controversial.' 

Why is human population growth such a contentious subject?

Will religious groups, or economists get that over population is a problem?

Comment by Chris on September 18, 2018 at 1:25am

Perhaps the best way to have a relationship is to not get married which appears to be a contract for ownership.

I have a friend who was married five to ten years ago. No one has heard from him since then -  including his family.

I've heard speculation that men are more likely to isolate women (wives) than women to men.

In that context where there is a dominant partner perhaps women may culpable as men often are accused to.

I haven't looked at the statistics -  either way it's despicable to isolate a person from their friends and family.

As a human species my thoughts are we are programed for monogamous serial relationships.

Having written that I read that a culture in China  allows women to take on multiple partners (sorry I don't recall the  culture).

In the current day of knowledge of sexually transmitted disease  is a hazard. 

Jealousy also is a factor with multiple partners.

To throw this another way Parental Alienation Syndrome from my reading  is usually directed from women towards men - at the child's expense.

As a 'joke'   one partner is difficult to deal with - along with the 'in-laws' and what not.

Having sexual relations with multiple partners  simultaneously may be suicidal.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on August 29, 2018 at 2:15pm

...women (and men) in open marriages, ....

My wife and I were two of them.

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 29, 2018 at 2:12pm

Back to the group's topic...

FUTURE HISTORY: a murky scene, thick smog and pollution everywhere from multiple smokestacks. Two factory workers with caps and lunchboxes; one says to the other: “The great Trump regulatory rollbacks of 2017 sure showed those environmentalists who’s boss!”

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 29, 2018 at 2:09pm

There are women (and men) in open marriages, who'll hook up with people, or take on longer-term partners, with everyone's consent!

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on August 27, 2018 at 2:05pm

Actually, I’m an optimist.

Natural selection will in time do better than Homo Sapiens. They will have to do without my delightful company.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 27, 2018 at 1:50pm

Tom, are you bragging or complaining, a "jealous husband hasn't caught you yet? 

 

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