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If any of the rest of you had any opinions on the subject, then why was Oryx the only one talking? He could have used someone to support him, because he was arguing like an idiot.
I quite agree with the baseline argument, that rape is an under-prosecuted crime, and something should be done about it. You just don't make that argument with cooked numbers, followed up by blatant misrepresentations of the numbers ... then followed on the end with personal attacks and appeals to blind emotion, like a theist, when you're called on it.
We're supposed to be atheists and skeptics, and we're supposed to be better than that. That's why I sided with Bruce. If you'll look at the threads, I backed him up only on his challenges and presentation of statistics, since that's when I agreed with him ... and so should many of you who are capable of analyzing an ally's argument and not just marching in lockstep with them.
And no, TNT, you've got it kind of backwards. The open forum is for presenting a unified front. The focused forum is where you squabble out the details.
Looks to me like the Troll (I think there's only one) is winning. I bet he's feeling pleased as punch now he's got us all talking about him and arguing amongst ourselves.
Pamela read the rules and guidelines.
I think men can be feminists. There is a man in the group that keeps slugging it out with these trolls long after the women have left in disgust. He is a fine feminist. There are others.
If you want to see two people agreeing, go look at the tag team that is dumping all this garbage on the group. They do provide odd moments of humor. One troll said to one of the men defenders of feminism, "If you want to go and create your own feminist group, there's no one here stopping you." A man telling another man this, well, ROFLOL!
Apparently Sehkmet want to "discuss" topics only with people who have the same opinion as she does. Wow.....how boring.
Person one: I think THIS.
Person two: I agree!!!
It also sounds like sehkmet thinks only women can be femninists...which I also disagree with.
If someone is so thin-skinned that they can't take the slightest dissent, perhaps discussion forums aren't their cup of tea. Perhaps a nice safe blog with no room for comments!
I spend far more time on Newsvine because the discussions are more lively and people actually respond in a timely manner. But I wouldn't suggest sehkmet go there....it is FAR to rough a playground for someone with such "delicate" sensibilities.
One of my feminist qualities is that I can't abide a wimpy women. Buck up girls...it's a rough world out there.
You don't consider personal attacks (in complete violation of the site's TOS) and long emotional diatribes, in response to rational objections, to be a problem?
I saw the thread on trolling. Asharu and Oryx were completely out of line for posting that and the thread about derailing. Asharu was the one who started the antisocial behavior, which is why I took Bruce's side over hers. I don't care if I agree with someone's base position, when they're as greatly in the wrong as those two were.
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