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TV : Dumb Down, with a side of sexual assault

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 11. 0 Replies

Misogynist A**holes in Ascendancy

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 26. 1 Reply

Think twice about marrying a police officer

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by sehkmet Aug 27. 7 Replies

Men together make extreme choices

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by sehkmet Aug 27. 1 Reply

Get evicted for calling 911

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 24. 9 Replies

Male Movie Critics Pan Female-Centric Plots

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 20. 12 Replies

Abuser Tactics in National Politics

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 29. 2 Replies

Career vs Babies from The Onion

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 13. 0 Replies

"Hi!" as assertion of dominance

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 20. 3 Replies

I Used a Hanger (Daily Kos)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 6. 18 Replies

Climate Change Hits Women Hardest

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 22. 0 Replies

Sexism requires dehumanising women

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 6. 6 Replies

Fear and contempt against us

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by tom sarbeck Feb 2. 11 Replies

Gender Ratio Danger

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Plinius Jan 29. 5 Replies

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Comment by SecretWombat on February 27, 2011 at 9:06pm
Pamela: When people who represent the patriarchal hegemony overwhelm the conversation, telling women how they should be arguing and determining the topics of conversation, then it marginalises women's views in the one place where their opinions should be paramount.

It would be a nice world if the only power people had was that which we gave them. Unfortunately it simply is not the case. Conversations here create the power structures. When men dominate the conversations they dominate the group.

Some men are great allies of feminism. The difference between them and those that seek to control, derail and overwhelm the conversation is that the feminist-ally men are primarily here to listen, not to lecture.
Comment by sehkmet on February 27, 2011 at 8:05pm

Pamela read the rules and guidelines.

I think men can be feminists.  There is a man in the group that keeps slugging it out with these trolls long after the women have left in disgust.  He is a fine feminist.  There are others.

If you want to see two people agreeing, go look at the tag team that is dumping all this garbage on the group.  They do provide odd moments of humor. One troll said to one of the men defenders of feminism, "If you want to go and create your own feminist group, there's no one here stopping you."  A man telling another man this, well, ROFLOL!

Comment by Pamela on February 27, 2011 at 7:50pm
How are these men setting the tone, sidelining you or telling you how to think???  If you don't agree with them tell them off, or simply ignore the offtopic comments and go back to the topic at hand.  The only power they have is that which you give them.
Comment by SecretWombat on February 27, 2011 at 7:38pm
Why even bother having a feminist group then? We can let men set the tone for the conversations, sideline the women, tell the women how they should and shouldn't be arguing and what they should think and simply call it 'the rest of the world'.

As a feminist I for one am welcoming of all women, not just the ones who pass some arbitrary test of what is or isn't 'wimpy'.
Comment by Joseph P on February 27, 2011 at 6:31pm
Thank you.
Comment by Pamela on February 27, 2011 at 6:22pm

Apparently Sehkmet want to "discuss" topics only with people who have the same opinion as she does.  Wow.....how boring. 

Person one:  I think THIS.

Person two: I agree!!!



It also sounds like sehkmet thinks only women can be femninists...which I also disagree with. 


If someone is so thin-skinned that they can't take the slightest dissent, perhaps discussion forums aren't their cup of tea.  Perhaps a nice safe blog with no room for comments!


I spend far more time on Newsvine because the discussions are more lively and people actually respond in a timely manner.  But I wouldn't suggest sehkmet go there....it is FAR to rough a playground for someone with such "delicate" sensibilities.


One of my feminist qualities is that I can't abide a wimpy women.  Buck up girls...it's a rough world out there.

Comment by Joseph P on February 27, 2011 at 5:39pm


You don't consider personal attacks (in complete violation of the site's TOS) and long emotional diatribes, in response to rational objections, to be a problem?


I saw the thread on trolling.  Asharu and Oryx were completely out of line for posting that and the thread about derailing.  Asharu was the one who started the antisocial behavior, which is why I took Bruce's side over hers.  I don't care if I agree with someone's base position, when they're as greatly in the wrong as those two were.

Comment by sehkmet on February 27, 2011 at 2:30pm

Feminist organizations have turned their efforts towards preserving those area of society where they receive special benefits, and denying equality for men in areas where men are victims of discrimination. To achieve these goals, they are prepared to lie and violate what Western society considers basic civil rights.  You've seen the lying and the slander on this forum.  You've seen the demonizing of those who do not believe the Feminist Mythology.

You don't call this trolling?

I do oppose feminism.

Or this?

I have to fall back on the fact that I frequently see cases in the news where a woman has falsely accused a man of rape or sexual assault. (topic was feds under counting rape victims) 

How about this?

How is posting two and three times in a row with no other posters in between and flooding the forum with their posts not derailing, which is typical troll behavior?

How is cross posting from other topics not trolling.

Many of these behaviors are against the rules and guidelines for Atheist Nexus.  If a few trolls go off topic why aren't they opening another thread?  The fact that they don't is derailing. 

There is a reason that groups have names, to describe what the group is for. I can't see how any of these troll's posts give a feminist views and experiences of atheism.  They are trolling.

Comment by TNT666 on February 27, 2011 at 2:05pm
Pamela your definition of trolling is too limited and wrong. Maybe we should place rational truth bearing male Joseph as the moderator to the feminist group to ensure none of us crazy outlandish feminists can discuss any topic which males disagree with? There have been a couple of links posted recently about the definition of troll, I suggest you read them.
Comment by Pamela on February 27, 2011 at 1:14pm



What you describe is "off-topic posting"...not trolling.  Trolls purposely post outrageous inflammatory material to get people riled up.  These discussions went off topic, mostly becasue the only people who stayed in the thread wnted to discuss the off topic subject.  If anyone WANTED to continue the original discussion they could have.  You are supposing that the off-topic posters had some sort of power to stop everyone else from posting.  But they can't do that.  I post on Newsvine all the time and there are side discussions and threads often go off-topic once the origianl topic has been abandoned. 

I think you are inventing a "problem" that doesn't really exist. 



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