Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)


Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, based in Madison, Wis., is a national association of freethinkers (atheists, agnostics) that has been working since 1978 to keep church and state separate.

Location: Madison
Members: 704
Latest Activity: May 8

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Annie Laurie Gaylor Addresses NOFS "Freethought Fiesta"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 22, 2016. 6 Replies

This past April, the Northern Ohio Freethought Society sponsored a "Freethought Fiesta," which among other things featured some terrific Mexican cooking for attendees and a talk by Freedom From…Continue

Tags: Annie Laurie Gaylor, Northern Ohio Freethought Society, Freedom From Religion Foundation

Human soul

Started by Lemual Poot. Last reply by tom sarbeck Nov 3, 2016. 55 Replies

I've heard many so called atheists refer to the "soul" as if it actually existed.  My question is:  If you believe humans have a soul are you really an atheist? Continue

Be it enacted by citizens of United States of America, three citizens be designated as true patriots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Lemual Poot Jun 6, 2015. 6 Replies

Whereas, Olivia McConnell, Eight-year-old, wrote her South Carolina state representatives; and Whereas, Olivia provided a legitimate reason to suggest this legislation:1. One of the first discoveries…Continue

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Comment by sk8eycat on February 12, 2012 at 11:49pm

Last week I was glued to MSNBC while the C-PAC loonies were ranting about contraception and their version of religious freedom. (Rick InSanitorium seems to think that the Puritans founded this nation...he's never heard of The Enlightenment. Obviously.)

I was house sitting for a friend, and didn't have access to the net, but I wanted to yell at somebody that the buybull says NOTHING about contraception, and Hosea 13:16 seems to approve of abortion for any woman who doesn't worship YHWH.

What is the big deal with xians and contraception?  Do they think their imaginary friend is going to "come back" as an infant, and a little pill might prevent that?  Is their god that helpless?

BTW, do these same people think drugs like Viagra and Cialis are "natural"?

War On Women, folks!  WOW!

Comment by Terry Groff on February 12, 2012 at 9:17pm

I joined this group partly because my Twitter name is @FreedonFrom_ :-)

Comment by Carl Pastor on February 12, 2012 at 11:18am

the japanese system works in a way. its not perfect. good hospitals and doctors have waiting lists. i waited a couple months to have my leg fixed so i cud walk (with Crutches) again, but my excellent doctor did a great job. and i only had to pay for my private room, because i live in kyoto which since im disabled, the local gov pays the share i wud have to pay under the national health care plan. 

ive also seen health care in  the usa. while the surgeons may be better, in general,  you and the drs and the hospitals have to deal with the insurance companys. these companys are evil.

Comment by James M. Martin on February 12, 2012 at 9:49am

Agree, Carl.  My friend in B.C. has had stomach cancer surgery and a hip replacement (she's in her 70s) and she cannot understand why some Americans are complaining about socialized medicine, as she had no waits and trouble getting her procedures.  I have waited for hours in some of our doctors on this side of the border, and the only reason I have no trouble getting into surgery is that the hospitals have to keep the assembly line going; that's how they make their money.  Some of it is going to the Castel Gandolfo Vatican Bank, of course.

Comment by Carl Pastor on February 12, 2012 at 12:51am

well i tell u james. i wish i lived in a world in which politicians did want they were elected to do and i never heard "What he reallt wanted was".  canadas system seems to be pretty good, im for a 100% copy.

Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 3:01pm

@ Carl, If he opted out of public option it was only to win over Blue Dogs and a few conservatives who didn't want more millions added to eligibility and foreclosure of the option to not sign up those with pre-existing conditions.  What he really wanted was a single pay system similar to Britain and Canada, France and Germany, the Scandinavian countries, &c. ad infinitum, i.e. "European socialism."

Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 2:55pm

@Tim: Not so fast!  Although it was assumed that the insurance companies would be gladdened at the prospect of much less expensive contraception than carrying to term and giving birth, they already are quibbling about the added expense.

Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 9:13am

Ted, I keep reminding the religious right that they should recall what happened to the Papists after the fall of the Bastille: at the initiation of Madame La Guillotine (her coming out, you might say), religionists were the first to meet "The National Razor."  If we have a religious revolution in America, the pedophile priests will be put to the slicer, their cocksucker heads separated from their bodies, their hooded executioner conferring his benediction, "This is the final separation of church and state."

Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 9:04am

Troy, may I make a suggestion: the degree of narrow-mindedness and anti-humanness a religions sect, the greater the persecution complex.  I do not see all that many mainstream (Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopal, &c.) sects joining in the "put upon" claims of the religious right, and it may be explained by the fact that these groups tend to accept the wall of separation.  Southern Baptists and evangelicals of all stripes are the main culprits.  Sadly, the recent online debate between Sam Harris and Andrew Sullivan on the proposition that "sane" or mainstream religionists enable the loonies like evangelicals did not get nationwide attention.  I would pay good money to see the two of them on stage for a couple of hours.  Why not?

Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 8:54am

David W, what "they" (I must imagine you mean the believers and their vocal element) do not understand is that the First Amendment not only prohibits the establishment of a state religion, it prohibits discrimination against those who do not believe at all.  The most absurd thing I read during the entire contraception flap was an editorial in the Washington Post (of all places) by some woman who claimed that the Obama Administration showed favoritism toward secularism, which she actually characterized as "a religion."  The last time I looked, secularists are non-religions.  I would suggest that the primary tenet of a religion is belief, that something cannot be called a "religion" unless it requires belief in a deity or deities.  The phrase, "Church of No God" is oxymoronic in the extreme.


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