Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)


Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, based in Madison, Wis., is a national association of freethinkers (atheists, agnostics) that has been working since 1978 to keep church and state separate.

Location: Madison
Members: 706
Latest Activity: Nov 28, 2016

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Annie Laurie Gaylor Addresses NOFS "Freethought Fiesta"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 22, 2016. 6 Replies

This past April, the Northern Ohio Freethought Society sponsored a "Freethought Fiesta," which among other things featured some terrific Mexican cooking for attendees and a talk by Freedom From…Continue

Tags: Annie Laurie Gaylor, Northern Ohio Freethought Society, Freedom From Religion Foundation

Human soul

Started by Lemual Poot. Last reply by tom sarbeck Nov 3, 2016. 55 Replies

I've heard many so called atheists refer to the "soul" as if it actually existed.  My question is:  If you believe humans have a soul are you really an atheist? Continue

Be it enacted by citizens of United States of America, three citizens be designated as true patriots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Lemual Poot Jun 6, 2015. 6 Replies

Whereas, Olivia McConnell, Eight-year-old, wrote her South Carolina state representatives; and Whereas, Olivia provided a legitimate reason to suggest this legislation:1. One of the first discoveries…Continue

Atheism VS Islam

Started by Uzeal Eternal. Last reply by tom sarbeck Mar 28, 2015. 8 Replies

Atheist Guy together with Muslim Girl = Clash of the Titans.....who wins?Continue

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Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 9:04am

Troy, may I make a suggestion: the degree of narrow-mindedness and anti-humanness a religions sect, the greater the persecution complex.  I do not see all that many mainstream (Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopal, &c.) sects joining in the "put upon" claims of the religious right, and it may be explained by the fact that these groups tend to accept the wall of separation.  Southern Baptists and evangelicals of all stripes are the main culprits.  Sadly, the recent online debate between Sam Harris and Andrew Sullivan on the proposition that "sane" or mainstream religionists enable the loonies like evangelicals did not get nationwide attention.  I would pay good money to see the two of them on stage for a couple of hours.  Why not?

Comment by James M. Martin on February 11, 2012 at 8:54am

David W, what "they" (I must imagine you mean the believers and their vocal element) do not understand is that the First Amendment not only prohibits the establishment of a state religion, it prohibits discrimination against those who do not believe at all.  The most absurd thing I read during the entire contraception flap was an editorial in the Washington Post (of all places) by some woman who claimed that the Obama Administration showed favoritism toward secularism, which she actually characterized as "a religion."  The last time I looked, secularists are non-religions.  I would suggest that the primary tenet of a religion is belief, that something cannot be called a "religion" unless it requires belief in a deity or deities.  The phrase, "Church of No God" is oxymoronic in the extreme.

Comment by Carl Pastor on February 10, 2012 at 11:21pm

i thot the pres opted out of public option, removing any chance of us keeping the insurance coimpanys honest.

Comment by James M. Martin on February 10, 2012 at 4:38pm

@Jennifer Marie: right now, unfortunately, the believers are the majority.  It may take a few more generations, but youth is moving in the right direction in many instances.  They no longer believe in marriage and certainly have nothing against anyone, including same sex couples, marrying, if that is their will.  Ditto abortion on demand.  But fossils like Santorum and Tony Perkins will never get it, you are certainly right.  But actually, they might get it, but they heed the advice of Seneca and are using religion to ascend to power.

Comment by Troy Gorsline on February 10, 2012 at 2:27pm

Next stop - PUBLIC OPTION!!!!!

Comment by Troy Gorsline on February 10, 2012 at 2:26pm

Yes. Insurance reform really is reform. Too bad the crazy wing nuts are going all....

Crazy Wing Nuts

Comment by Tim Otheus on February 10, 2012 at 2:21pm

OK, so President Obama just solved the problem with the Catholic Church and contraception by requuring insurance companies to give free contraception to those who work for Catholic organizations who want such services.  Easy peasy.

Comment by Carl Pastor on February 10, 2012 at 1:23pm

i hope so. but when i look at russiawhere for 70 years astheism was taught in the schools and as soon as the comunists wree tossed out, religion came back, and even china, where religeous are persecuted, but still exist, i dont know.  of course religion myst be kept out of out national afiars. its only in the last 50 years that it become so damn fundamentalist. until 50 years ago politicians treated it as a deasd subject and rarely mentioned it

Comment by Ted Gresham on February 10, 2012 at 12:59pm

Absolutely agree, Jennifer.  Sure won't happen in our lifetime.  Maybe science and reason will progress to the point where it makes it all go away some day.

I do think, however, that the ultra-nutcases can be exposed enough to cut them off at the knees.  That's the best we can hope for.  Beyond that, absolutely, stand firm and make strong statements and absolute demands.

Comment by Ted Gresham on February 10, 2012 at 11:15am

The term "religious freedom" has no real meaning to the radical right.  They don't any more want that than they want to appoint the Pope as their god.  There is no "attack" on religious freedom either, and they know that, too.  They whip up these idiotic slogans for their programmed masses just as the church hierarchy has whipped up horrible slogans for centuries. 

THEY know what they want.  THEY want dominion (often with a capital "D"), THEY want their brand of christianity to rule.  But they can't get it without the help of their masses of followers.  Thus they lie and misquote and etc., in order to convince the masses their enemies are wrong and they are right. 

Once they gain power (let's hope this is hypothetical!) they will hold it with an iron fist and their followers become their slave masters and rules us just as the church ruled Europe and England for so long. 

Our mission is to find ways to convince their followers of how they are being deceived and pry them away from such idiots as Boehner.  Remove the puppets and the puppet masters have nothing.


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