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Comment by sk8eycat on June 17, 2014 at 8:30am

Osteopathy, homeopathy, chiropractic...."health" food...ALL had their start as religious "faiths."  That's why I reject them.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 17, 2014 at 7:45am

WHEW!  While I don't always agree with Mercola, I think he has some valid suggestions, i.e., his "high intensive interval training" workouts. I don't buy any of his health products, nor endorse his philosophy. I'm just passing on a tidbit or two. On Dr. Oz's show, he came off as a real weirdo (as he contradicted the necessity of taking multi-vitamins).

Thanks, Joan, for the information on sprouting. I tried it with soybeans not long ago. What a hassle. I think I'll stick to regular food!

Comment by Pat on June 16, 2014 at 6:02pm

Joan, you raise interesting questions. My take on Mercola (I agree with Felaine, I hesitate to call him a doctor) is this. His recommendations as to diet are probably good. But then again, that is relatively accessible information without having to revert to the arcana of "alternative" medicine. His recommendations against vaccines are, in my estimation, quackery. 

At what point in eating a bowel of stew, and having one piece of rancid meat after another, do you come to the conclusion you're being poisoned? Mercola is snake oil salesman. Nothing more, nothing less.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 16, 2014 at 12:57pm


Debating Homeopathy Part II


"There is a great deal more detail that I could go into, and Saine and I might engage in a written exchange to follow up our live debate. This would be a great opportunity to delve deeply into the research of homeopathy.

"On every point proponents fail to make the case for homeopathy. It remains extremely implausible, and even setting aside that implausibility, the clinical evidence is negative. The pattern of results that we see are consistent with the null hypothesis – a scatter of results, a positive bias in the preliminary studies, but as methodological rigor increases studies tend to become negative. The evidence is a giant arrow pointing at the null hypothesis – homeopathy does not work.

"The basic science and clinical evidence for homeopathy has not come anywhere close to the four criteria I outlined for compelling scientific evidence – statistically significant outcomes with adequate signal to noise ratios in high quality studies that survive replication.

"What we have instead are excuses, special pleading, appeals to low grade evidence, some conspiracy mongering and bashing of mainstream medicine, ad hominem attacks, and other logical fallacies.

"And yet Saine marvels at how skeptics can remain skeptical."

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 16, 2014 at 12:38pm

Part 2 

Safe Sprouting: Sprouts carry a risk of contamination with salmonella, E. coli, listeria, or other bacteria. The warm, humid conditions they need are part of the problem. Bacteria thrive in those conditions, too.

For food safety, the FDA offers this advice:

Refrigerate sprouts you buy.

Don't eat raw sprouts. Cook them thoroughly before eating.

Children, seniors, pregnant women, and people with weakened immune systems should not eat raw sprouts.

Sprouting at home? Buy seeds from a certified supplier, and sterilize the seeds and container before sprouting. Also, use your nose. Sprouts should smell clean. When in doubt, throw them out.


???Question, how can one sterilize seeds and then have them sprout? My understanding is sterilizing kills the part of the seed that sprouts. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 16, 2014 at 12:37pm

Pat, you and I are on the same skeptical wavelength. I looked him up, too, and found the same site. Now, to the question of spouts, 

Should You Sprout Your Food?  part 1 

What to know about sprouting grains, nuts, and legumes.

By Tammy Worth

WebMD Feature Reviewed by Kathleen M. Zelman, MPH, RD, LD

Sprouts are packed with nutrients and are easy to digest. 

Organic Foods: To Buy or Not to Buy

What Is Sprouting? Seeds sprout after a few days in a warm, moist setting. It usually takes 3 to 7 days, depending upon the conditions and kind of seeds being used.

Many foods can be sprouted, including:

Grains, such as barley, wheat, and spelt

Legumes, such as lentils, peas, and pinto, kidney, beans and lima beans

Radish and broccoli seeds

Nuts, including almonds, cashews, walnuts, and peanuts.

Sprouting Chemistry: The sprouting process may make it easier for a body to absorb nutrients including iron, zinc, and vitamin C, says dietitian Reem Jabr, a nutrition therapist in the Boston area.

Broccoli sprouts might help prevent cancer. They have more natural chemicals called glucosinolates than regular broccoli. Glucosinolates have shown promise against bladder cancer in lab tests on animals. It's not yet clear if the same is true for people, but "there is a lot of interest" in that, says Steve Schwartz, PhD, an Ohio State University food science professor, who has studied broccoli sprouts.

Digestion Benefit: Sprouting breaks down a seed. That means less work for your digestive system, says Elisabetta Politi, RD, nutrition director at the Duke Diet & Fitness Center in Durham, NC. "It would be a good choice for someone with a sensitive gut." "For people with problems digesting certain foods, sprouted germs might seem better for them, and they are less allergenic to people with grain protein sensitivities."

Comment by sk8eycat on June 16, 2014 at 11:00am

Oh...he's an osteopath, not a real doctor.  Close relation to homeopathy.  Ta-ta!

Comment by Pat on June 16, 2014 at 10:38am

Not to be a wet blanket, but here's what I just read about Dr. Mercola, on Quack Watch.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 16, 2014 at 10:02am

Randall, You offer an excellent suggestion.

When my back yard was all in vegetables and fruits, I learned what living abundantly meant, and one never has enough family or friends when growing zucchinis. I took bushels of food to the local community center. 

Thanks for the information on sunflower seed sprouts. I'll get out my old sprouter; I haven't used it in years. I'm looking up Dr. Mercola. 

Your new goji berry bush interests me. Please keep us posted on its progress. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 16, 2014 at 8:09am

Felaine (and others): many of you know I offer free food out of my yard and garden, set out by the road I live on. It amazes me hardly anybody takes it. I usually have an over abundance of fruit, tomatoes  (which, theoretically, is a fruit), radishes, etc., etc.  People are either too proud or too much in a hurry to stop. Your story pains me.

Reading Joan's comment on sunflower seeds, I just read Dr. Mercola's article on the 15 foods everyone should have and be eating. One was sunflower seeds, but in sprouts. I might try that. Five of his top 15 were dairy products--eggs, yogurt, even butter. ( 

Oh, and I just ordered a goji berry plant from Home Depot! It's supposed to be a super berry. 


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