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Comment by Patricia on February 9, 2018 at 3:00pm

I can't live like that. I want my own cooking most of the time with an occasional meal out as a nice treat & a change from cooking it myself, & 2 or 3 times a year is plenty.

I have learned to eat while keeping my stomach problems to a minimum, & restaurants aren't going to do that.

Now it appears I have kidney issues, will see a specialist in March, & likely have to re-vamp my whole diet....again! I never was much of a salt person, but kidney diets involve a lot more than just salts.......sigh......

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 9, 2018 at 2:51pm

Larry loves to eat out; it was hard for me to get used to at first! I would have a meal half prepared, casserole in the oven, smells emanating throughout the house, salad ingredients on the cutting board, and in he came, "Let's go to ... for dinner tonight. My loud protest brought a sad look and he relented. Laura assured me Larry likes to go out and I would get a night off. "But! but! but!" I responded.
I finally learned how to pull the meal off the stove, or out of the oven, put the salad makings back into the 'frig, get on my shoes, coat, gloves, and scarf and happily enjoyed the meal out. 
Living in the country, in a rural community, meant there were not many fast food places and a lot of Mom and Pop cafes with wonderful coffee, Old European recipes, outstanding desserts, people chatting from table to table with family and friends. Most of the people were related in one way or another so it felt like a Sunday-after-church-supper with extended family. 

Living in Colorado, in a huge housing development 1,000 feet higher in elevation than Denver, means expensive restaurants, houses that people struggle to keep from foreclosures, high stress everywhere one turns, and "keep-up-with-the-Jones's" atmosphere that kills the appetite for restaurant eating.

There is an outstanding meat market/grocery store, but it is on the other side of Littleton, a long drive at best, terrible traffic at worse. On the rare occasion that Craig or Mindy make the run, they return with fine beef and chicken bones so that I can make stock. They also return with very fine, fresh fish !!!  Wait !!!   Fresh fish in Colorado? Yes, it is flown in on schedule and the long, tiresome trip usually occurs because of fish. 

The organic, GMO-free, fresh fruits and vegetables come from greenhouses that produce the finest produce I can remember having. 

There is a housing development next to Craig and Mindy's home further up the mountains with multi-million $ homes. This population demands and gets FINE fresh foods. Their prices skyrocket according to the ability to pay sky-high costs. 

I, clearly, am out of my comfort zone here. 

Comment by Patricia on February 9, 2018 at 1:46pm

Eating out is a treat, & shouldn't be a constantly regular thing in my books.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 9, 2018 at 7:48am

Since Daniel left A/N, this group has become rather inactive.

When I was in Florida, I ate out several times--mostly buffets. I like my food hot, so I take a little at a time and return to the line frequently. I did Chinese, pizza, and a breakfast buffet. 

IHOP had an "all you can eat pancakes" breakfast for $3.99. I could only eat 3 of the 5 pancakes they brought me. They were very large. (I "doggy-bagged" the remaining 2.) But the "cheap" meal came out to about $8 when adding coffee for $2.50, taxes, and a dollar tip.  My self made pancake with coffee breakfast this morning probably cost less than $1. More like 50 cents.

But, it's fun to eat out on occasion. I don't do it very often. 

Comment by Randall Smith on January 19, 2018 at 7:27am

Thomas, yogurt is definitely good for you. I've never made it before, but I know many people that do. Good luck.

Unrelated, I cleaned out my 15 cubic foot chest freezer yesterday. I think it's been a couple of years since I last did it. The oldest labeled food was a 2015 jar of peaches. So, in rearranging and sorting everything, the oldest foods were brought to the top. I did find some forgotten containers. If we ever have a food crisis of some sort, I'm well supplied to last a long long time!

Comment by Thomas Murray on January 17, 2018 at 10:22am

   I've been reading up on yogurt and I am surprised at how easy it is to make. I think I'll go with making my own yogurt incubator. The incubators I looked at were all small that holds 6 or 7 pints sized jars. My family eats a lot of yogurt so I'll be cooking yogurt in big batches. Interesting is that if anyone lives near a cave the cave can be used as an incubator. Anyway, a simple light bulb installed in an ice cooler will do.

Comment by Patricia on January 16, 2018 at 1:43pm

I've made many jello cheesecakes....usually lime.

Comment by Randall Smith on January 16, 2018 at 7:25am

Yesterday, I made an "orange jello" cheesecake. The idea came from an old Indiana recipe book. I was perusing through it for a clue, and, knowing I had an old pack of orange jello, voila, there it was! And I had all the ingredients, surprisingly. I couldn't wait the 12 hours recommended to set, so it was a wee bit soupy 6 hours later, but oh so good!

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 10, 2018 at 11:01pm

Thomas, I am glad you had a source of food during the shortages at your home. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 10, 2018 at 11:00pm

Thomas, may I ask what years those memories occurred. I have relatives that live in Belgium who tell of hunger during WW II. Their lives were traumatized by those events, even as we had plenty to eat during the war. We were on rations, sugar and fats are the ones I remember the most. We didn't need protein, fruits, or vegetables because we grew all of those kinds of things. I remember saving buckets of fat, but I can't remember what we did with the buckets. 


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