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Comment by sk8eycat on February 1, 2015 at 10:31am

Michael, how strange!  There are several Vegetables that I used to hate when I was a kid, and would always leave them on my plate.  It wasn't till I grew up and started watching Julia Child that I realized that my Oklahoma born-and-raised mother was over-cooking them to the point where they were beginning to turn to mush.  Especially things like Brussels sprouts....made the house stink like cheap cigars.

I prefer stir-fried veg....barely cooked.  EXCEPT for the kind of beans you buy dry....I do soak those in COLD water for 12 or more hours (except for split peas....shorter soaking and cooking time) before cooking.  And never, ever add salt till they're almost ready to eat.  If at all.  Salt WILL make any beans hard as rocks.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 1, 2015 at 7:32am

Since I think about meals a day ahead, I automatically soak any and all beans overnight--20 hours worth. Plus I cook them for at least 30'.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 1, 2015 at 2:48am

Randy, I love Greek food. I learned to make chicken broth and then make whatever kind I want, either with vegetables, noodles or whatever, and then put a squeeze of fresh lemon juice on top.  

Felaine, your plan of eating sounds like a good one. Simple carbs are the problem for me, too. It is easy to cut them out. Except for Agave in my two cups of coffee every day. 

Kathy, I have nothing to add to Spud's or Michael's suggestion for garbanzo beans. Do you like other kinds of beans? 

Michael, you must have grown up in a family with the home canned vegetables. We used to boil them for 20 minutes, until they were like mush. I love fresh vegetables lightly steamed now.

Comment by Michael Penn on January 31, 2015 at 1:13pm

Pressure cooker or a crock pot maybe. I have the latter and I like the beans but they are too damned hard - even the canned ones. I don't like hard beans or "chewy" vegetables.

Even broccoli should be steamed 14 to 16 minutes. I forget which but you can experiment until you get it just right for you. I hate crunchy broccoli.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2015 at 10:09am

I have not noticed garbanzo beans that are too hard for me.  I usually buy the dry ones and cook them in a pressure cooker at 150 degrees F for about 30 minutes.  I would try that on your canned ones.

Comment by kathy: ky on January 31, 2015 at 9:42am
Spud, I love garbanzo beans.

But sometimes they are hard as a rock. Does anyone know a brand that's a little more tender. Or a way to soften the really hard ones??
I use the canned ones and thought about putting them in a pot and trying to cook them a little more but that doesn't seem like it would help.
Comment by Randall Smith on January 31, 2015 at 7:55am

EXACTLY, Felaine! That's what "Fat Surprise" says, and you're proof! Congratulations, by the way. I don't have a weight issue--I just want to live a long, healthy life.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 30, 2015 at 1:04pm

Does the "Big Fat Surprise Book" contain information similar to Good Calories, Bad Calories, and Why We Get Fat, both by Gary Taubes?  Mainly that "low fat" foods are a scam, and it's the simple carbohydrates that we eat that are the killers?  (Complex carbs are another story.)

I've lost 40+ lbs since I started eating things like bacon and eggs, and multi-grain breads again. (2+ years ago.)  I rarely feel hungry anymore, and I don't feel like I'm depriving myself of anything.  AND, BIG deal, my blood glucose has stabilized so that I don't need to take an insulin booster anymore, either.  YAYYYYY!

Comment by Randall Smith on January 30, 2015 at 7:52am

I think I sampled just about everything last night when I ate at a Chinese buffet restaurant (called "Everything OK"). After I read that "Big Fat Surprise" book, I didn't have the guilt of eating all that "bad food" that usually accompanies eating out. However, I'm eating in moderation today--even skipped breakfast. Vegetable soup tonight, Greek style (I looked up an internet recipe).

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 27, 2015 at 4:47pm

Spud, perfect additions to the salad. My cousin's wife must weigh 300 pounds. Every day a recipe comes from her that is just dripping with icing or heavy sauces or deep fried treasures. I decided that when I receive one of her recipes I am going to send her a photo and recipe of one of my favorites, even if I have to use a stock photo. 


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