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Comment by Idaho Spud on December 2, 2014 at 10:10am

Randy, that's interesting about Ball jars, David Letterman and Garfield.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 2, 2014 at 10:07am

Pat, thanks for the advice.  I forgot that bugs or bug eggs can be in the dry food.  I also didn't think of Oxygen absorbers.  I have some of those, vacuum packed, so I'll use those.  I don't have enough freezer space for all my dry foods, but one of these days, (I keep saying for years), I'll look at my big chest freezer, to see if I can repair it.

Well pat, I do sense a little bitterness, but I don't blame you in the least!

Comment by Randall Smith on December 2, 2014 at 7:22am

I love your last sentence, Joan!

Since I missed out on some traditional Thanksgiving foods (eating at Dad's retirement home), I decided to complete the meal, albeit without my usual turkey leg. So yesterday I made mushroom based stuffing (yum), sweet potatoes, a succatash, Br. sprouts, and a scone (thanks to Deidre) with dried cranberries inside and cranberry sauce on top. Oh yes, the meat was ham.  Now I'm happy.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 30, 2014 at 6:57pm

I didn't do this last year because I was playing with my cancer friend. But this coming spring, as I have been doing for decades, i start a lot of plants and label them. After hardening them off, and taking what I want, I put trays of them out in the front yard or in front of the garage. I send emails to neighbors and friends that they are free to take whatever they want. I always start too many. 

During harvest, I take wheelbarrows of vegetables and fruits to the front and notify by email to pick up whatever they want. If there are any leftovers, I take them to the East Central Community Center for distribution. I hate waste. 

Of course, there is always my compost pile that appreciates new additions, as do the worms in the worm-farm. 

I meet some of the greatest people doing this. I didn't understand living abundantly until I grew zucchini.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 30, 2014 at 5:00pm

Patricia, I hear you.  My mother's side of the family is/was pear-shaped, and Dad's was/is top-heavy.  I got Dad's body (with "bird legs" when I quit skating), and Mother's features and coloring..

Almost everyone on Dad's side of the family has, or had Type 2 diabetes, or is pre-diabetic.  And my other cousins (children of my Mother's only sister) inherited Type 1 from their father....2 have already died.

None of Mom's 4 brothers who survived WW2 had children....2 never married, and displayed PTSD symptoms for the rest of their lives.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 30, 2014 at 4:20pm

Fats are NOT nearly as harmful as refined carbs, nor is brown sugar.  It tasted funny in drinks...I have used Demarara sugar, when we cat get's not as strong-tasting as regular brown...almost tastes like white.  I sometimes combine it in my tea, 1/2 tsp each, with sucralose just for flavor.

Too bad you can't get him to switch to multi-grain bread with sunflower seeds and nuts.  IMO it tastes better than white bread.  An occasional southern-style biscuit or two is okay.  Same for the best dark chocolate, maybe once a week or so. But just one or two squares.

The point is not to pig-out on any one thing, nor to deprive yourself completely.  But your DNA controls everything...  White/refined carbs make insulin levels go up and down like a yo-yo, demanding more carbs, and eventually make the system insulin-resistant.

I'm still trying to figure out why my blood glucose doesn't need Glucotrol (an insulin booster) anymore, but the same sort of thing happened 30 or 40 years ago when my thyroid was only working at 9% efficiency.  I took Thyrolar for almost 10 years, and then stopped, and everything was normal, and stayed that way.  (Well, I do have a "baby goiter" now, but it doesn't seem to be growing, so....I'm leaving it alone.)

Comment by Pat on November 30, 2014 at 4:02pm

Felaine, your statement about the Pima people reminds me of my grandparents (grandmother was born during Grover Cleveland's 2nd term). She saw Orville Wright fly his flying machine, lived through WWI, the Great Depression, WWII and watched Apollo 11 land on the moon. Being able to "afford" white bread and processed food was a sign that you were no longer dirt poor, and had access to some of the "finer" things. That's what the advertisers told her generation and my parents' generation. Considering what they went through, it's not surprising they bought into it, and raised us to accept it.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 30, 2014 at 2:44pm

But he does have heart problems, right?  Does he check his blood glucose ever?  Use brown sugar on the oatmeal?

There are so many different factors involved....goes back to the time when humans were mostly hunters and gatherers, and the body had to store carbs as fat to tide people over during times of shortage and famine.  We still have those bodies....we haven't evolved fast enough to keep up with our current diets.

One of the most fascinating studies has been on American Pima Indians....they did not start to become obese until things like white flour became affordable....about 100 years ago.  Now almost all of them are obese to a certain extent, and have Type 2 diabetes.  Same for African slaves were usually always chubby or fat because they worked in the kitchens, and ate what the massas ate.  Field hands had a much more limited diet, including whole grains....

It also depends on where your ancestors of 20,000 years ago lived....Northern latitudes, or equatorial...

Very complicated.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 30, 2014 at 1:33pm

It's not just's ALL simple (refined) carbohydrates..... especially white flour.  And heredity that goes back thousands of years.

Comment by Pat on November 30, 2014 at 12:19pm

Thank you Daniel. I had not heard of Michael Pollan before you mentioned him. Just got done reading "Food Rules" on my kindle. Well worth the cost of downloading it.


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