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Comment by Randall Smith on December 19, 2016 at 7:22am

Sad to say, I'm not yet in Italy, Daniel!  You gotta put up with me 'til April!

Comment by Daniel W on December 18, 2016 at 11:16am

Hope Randy is having a great time in Italy!  Italy has some of the best food in the world, if not THE best food.  Im supposed to be loyal to Chinese food, being married to someone Chinese, and that is also awesome, but Italian food is wonderful.  Even the street food.

Info on Cuisinart blade recall.  NPR  Maybe no one else has a Cuisinart, but there are millions of them across the USA.   You may know someone with one.  We use it for pureed soups, puree pumpkin, some pasta doughs, processing pumpkin and squash for freezing, and tomato sauce. 

Pieces of the blade chip off and lodge in the food, causing chipped teeth and mouth mucosal lacerations.  I forget the number about 30 known injuries reported of 8 million units sold.

It's really easy to exchange your blade.  Go to Cuisinart recall website, find the model # on the bottom of your machine, and answer the questions on the website.  It's free and easy.  Checked the model number on our old Cuisinart food processor. It is one that requires blade replacement in the big recall. The problem is that small pieces of metal break off and eating food with those pieces of metal can cause chipped teeth and mouth lacerations. Very easy to fill out the form on line for a new blade, and old one can be discarded.

Comment by Daniel W on December 14, 2016 at 4:42pm

Randy, heres one more article originally verbatum from NY Times last week.

Basically, non-extreme life changes can be as or more effective, compared to medications, per one of the best medical journals published.  Well researched, well reasoned.

The active ingredient in red rice yeast is the same as Lovastatin / mevacor, by the way.  Except, supplements are so poorly regulated it might not contain any.  Bummer.  Fish oil can lower triglycerides for some patients, Im not clear on whether thar matters. 

Comment by Randall Smith on December 13, 2016 at 8:13am

Thank you one and all! From all I've read and heard, statins are prescribed far too often (and it happened to me 15 years ago when my cholesteral reading was only 206! Side effects were muscle aches. I stopped.). I did start taking red yeast rice, and I currently eat flax and fish oil. Still, no change. Genetics?

Like I said, we'll wait and see what the doc says. One thing for certain, no statins ever again! Good information, Daniel. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 12, 2016 at 10:52am

Since I've found what I consider better doctors, I'm no longer taking any drugs that previous doctors had me on.  None for prostate, none for pre-diabetes, none for cholesterol, and none for allergies.  My symptoms and blood tests have improved in all these areas since I stopped taking drugs.

Comment by Daniel W on December 12, 2016 at 10:39am

Continuing because my character count was too high for one post -

So actually, more were harmed than helped, plus the cost.  Of course, those harms are less sever than actually having a terrible outcome like a heart attack or stroke.

That's a very big deal nationally, because you can prevent 1000s of heart attacks and strokes by giving a statin. So it's a population health issue more than an individual health issue.  I'm not a big fan of population health, because it turns us all into a mindless number with no say, and no individual proclivities, opportunities, goals, and needs.   Health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies become even more rich of course, pushing these drugs on virtually everyone. 

But that does not take into account real, personal, livestyle efforts, and those are no longer taught in medical school and no longer promoted because they say people won't do it anyway.  My health plan actually rated each primary care doctor on what percentage of their patients were actually taking statins, because my health plan owns its pharmacy, so tracks all of the prescription fills for every patient.  Big brother.  That is among countless other ratings as well.  They pressured doctors to make more patients take them, and had big systems in place to have the managers, nurses, and pharmacists do the same.

Looking at that link another way,

"It takes 5 years of daily statin therapy to achieve a 1.6% chance of avoiding a heart attack, and a 0.37% chance of avoiding a stroke. Most disappointing, statins seem unable to prevent death in this group."

This is for primary prevention - preventing a heart attack or stroke before it happens.  For secondary prevention - preventing a second heart attack or stroke, it's a different situation.

My case is also individual, because I take a rare, powerful and life changing medication to treat a rare cancer.  The combination of bad effects is simply unknown, as is the benefit and the risk/benefit profile. 

By the way, when I retired, they were no longer using just actual cholesterol numbers to make a decision about statin drugs.  The decision was made based on age, weight, smoking, blood pressure, and presence of diabetes.  Checking cholesterol level was more a way to convince people to take statins.

Comment by Daniel W on December 12, 2016 at 10:38am

A agree with Chris about the genetic aspect of cholesterol.  My mother's was in the 500s, my dad's in the low 100s.  They walked together every day.  They ate the same diet, mostly ovolacto vegetarian, no egg yolk, no meet, only skim milk, no cheese. 

The expert team on heart disease has set the bar such that virtually everyone needs to be on a cholesterol pill.  Mine is under 100, I get daily exercise, I'm vegetarian, but my doctor suggested I start a cholesterol pill because I take a blood pressure pill - BP currently about 120/70 which is excellent control.  I said no. 

Here is a link regarding number needed to treat, NNT.  That means, how many people do you need to treat, to prevent one bad outcome such as heart attack or stroke.   For benefits, by

giving cholesterol medication,

  • None were helped (life saved)
  • 1 in 60 were helped (preventing heart attack)
  • 1 in 268 were helped (preventing stroke)

For number needed to harm

  • 1 in 50 were harmed (develop diabetes*)
  • 1 in 10 were harmed (muscle damage)
Comment by Plinius on December 12, 2016 at 8:28am

High cholesterol can be programmed in the genes. You can also use pomegranates to lower cholesterol. 

Comment by Michael Penn on December 12, 2016 at 7:49am

Randall, I had similar readings and they had a hissy over my cholesterol and wanted to put me on Crestor. My cost on this $250 medication is $47 but I refused because I can switch to the VA and get it for $15. Don't try and convince me I'm getting a "bargain."

I'm also 248 lbs. and know fully that the old standard on cholesterol was 250 for many years. Then the drug "money makers" stepped in. You can lower it with flax seed oil, fish oil, and red yeast rice.

Comment by Randall Smith on December 12, 2016 at 7:32am

My blood test results are in (sent to me). Mixture of good and bad. Cholesterol at 265, but HDL is 80. So the ratio is well within the range of "okay". PSA (prostate) is very low--good news.

I just don't understand why my cholesterol number is so high. I exercise, eat right, not overweight, etc. "They" say don't be too concerned unless it's over 300. And it's the same as last year. We'll see what the Dr. says in 3 days.


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