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Comment by Daniel W on February 7, 2015 at 9:56pm
Wow, that would be interesting to learn! I made a reasonable lentil pate, years ago, but have long since lost the recipe. I based it on a description of the real thing, but they are so variable, I would love to have something "standard" to start with.
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 7, 2015 at 9:01pm

We have a fine spice company in Spokane, Michlitch. I sent them an email asking for information about Braunschweiger seasoning. I'll let you know what they say. For the binder, I'll call their sausage maker next week and see what he/she has to say.  

My grandad and dad used to make Braunschweiger in their butcher shop and I liked it very much. I don't have any of their recipes.  

Comment by Daniel W on February 7, 2015 at 8:32pm

I'm wondering if anyone has made home made sausage in a recipe that can be converted to a lentil or garbanzo pâté?  Especially, Braunschweiger or liverwurst. 

The reason is, I feel nostalgia for comfort foods that I grew up with.  One was a meatloaf that my mother made - I use her recipe and make a passable lentil loaf.  It is a little crumbly, but not bad and I love the flavors and nostalgia. 

I used to also like Braunschweiger sandwiches or on crackers.  It was a major comfort food of my childhood.  I have been vegetarian for 35 years.  Zero desire to change that - at this point I have a revulsion to meat.  I never try to convert anyone, I'm just interested in something I can make for myself.  If I knew the flavor ingredients that go into Braunschweiger, I could try to substitute in a hummus-like pate using garbanos, or using lentils, or another bean.  Red kidney beans or red lentils might give the appropriate color.   Lentils have a richness that could substitute fine for me, for the liver aspect, and real liver would make me sick at this point - I just want the spice combination.

I have seen a number of online recipes for making sausages from scratch.  The spice mixture runs the gamut.  It seems peppery with something savory, like pepper+marjoram+cardamon+ some of allspice or nutmeg or cloves.  And onions, I haven't seen garlic used.  Sun Dried tomatoes might add some zing and red color.

Is there is good, traditional tasting spice combination I can start with?

I can do without a binding agent, spreadable is as good as slicing. 

There is a company that makes pretty good vegetarian sausages  - "Field Roast" - but I don't want to drive into Portland to get it at the hippie store.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 7, 2015 at 1:37pm

GC, from that study you would expect a high number of Alzheimer's patients in the American South...they bread and deep-fry everything...did they find that?

Comment by sk8eycat on February 7, 2015 at 1:32pm

Oh.  I never fell for the "low-fat" scam.  I don't know why; it just felt wrong...and I was reading science magazines starting back in the mid-1960s...mostly for the NASA news, but I got caught up in the medical/dietary research, too.  Especially the ongoing research on groups like the Pima indians.  I KNEW they weren't living "high on the hog."  ... butter, and fatty (expensive) beef, and other "rich" foods. 

Remember the "Pasta Diets" of the 1980s? All I could think of were some local Italian grandmothers...obese, in black dresses.

And on and on.  My mother had high cholesterol, and was told to "cut down" by her doctor, so she one egg a week, plain ground beef patties the size of silver dollars, etc....skim milk, ghod-awful margarine...ick!  Didn't lower her cholesterol numbers a bit.  And she got cancer.  A certain amount of fat is necessary to keep the immune system going...

And a friend's father ...a small, skinny man...was on the same sort of diet for the same reason, and died of blocked coronary arteries, anyway.

I want BUTTER on my oatmeal!  Not that watery stuff with a funny flavor.  (Can't cook with any margarine ever developed.)

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 7, 2015 at 1:26pm

From reading the paper... acidic marinades do result in far less AGEs being formed during cooking.

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 7, 2015 at 1:08pm

I've actually come to prefer the taste of less-fatty sausage; but still prefer beef hamburgers to turkey burgers.

There's bad news, though: all that delicious roasted and grilled meat seems to gradually make you stupid (as in the cognitive and motor declines and brain deposits associated with Alzheimer's disease).

"In typical national diets, we found that meat made the highest contribution of AGEs, followed by vegetable oils, cheese, and fish."

The very worst of the foods tested were chicken with the skin, roasted and/or barbecued; bacon; hot dogs (especially broiled); steak (especially fried); and anything breaded and fried.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 7, 2015 at 10:28am

That was my guess why you switched Randy.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 7, 2015 at 7:29am

Turkey IS cheaper, but that's not the reason I switched. It was the "better for you" theory that I fell for--less fat, etc. No longer duped, I'm back to the good stuff!

Comment by sk8eycat on February 6, 2015 at 9:27am

Why did you switch to turkey substitutes?  Price?  Taste?  I like smoked turkey wings and things, but they're awfully difficult to find in the stores.


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